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Hammock Parties 03-16-2017 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12785694)
Jeremy Maclin's getting 12 mill this year.

He better be over his bout of AIDS. Otherwise he needs to get cut next year. He'll have 3 full seasons on his contract at that point, and the dead money should be negligible to the savings we'd see.
You and I both know paying any WR premium money with Aleve Smono around is a waste of cash.

We'll be lucky to get 1,000 yards out of J-Mac again.

ToxSocks 03-16-2017 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12785119)
I would rather Ford reach a level of consistency playing like he did in the middle of 2016 than replace him. Let's see what he can do here in 2017. He was the best player on the defense for about a month long stretch there in 2016.
This.

CP has always been hard on Ford. Remember, he was tearing it up lining up over the RT in place of Houston.

Also remember, he spent the entire off season preparing on that side in the absence of Houston.

ALSO remember, his play didn't fall off until he injured his hammy. Once he came back, he was splitting reps with Hali over the LT.

I'd like to see him get a offseason playing the same position he'd be playing in regular season games.

I think Ford will be fine.

ToxSocks 03-16-2017 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12785072)
I doubt Berry lives up to that kinda deal, but I love Eric Murrays potential.
What is Berry suppose to do to live up to the deal? Rarely do players meet or exceed the expectations of the fans when given a blockbuster contract.

I expect Berry to continue to be Berry and do as he's always done. I expect the dipshits around here to use the contract as a reason to rip Berry every time he makes a mistake. "Highest paid safety in the NFL HURDUR" as if star players don't **** up here and there.

RealSNR 03-16-2017 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12785709)
You and I both know paying any WR premium money with Aleve Smono around is a waste of cash.

We'll be lucky to get 1,000 yards out of J-Mac again.
Exactly. You give Alex a bunch of Donnie Averys, Dexter McClusters, and Anthony Fasanos, and he throws for 3200ish yards. You give him Jeremy Maclins and Travis Kelces, and he throws for 3200ish yards.

Draft some rookies, and in a cheap veteran or two, and the offense is the ****ing same.

raybec 4 03-16-2017 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12785714)
What is Berry suppose to do to live up to the deal? Rarely do players meet or exceed the expectations of the fans when given a blockbuster contract.

I expect Berry to continue to be Berry and do as he's always done. I expect the dipshits around here to use the contract as a reason to rip Berry every time he makes a mistake. "Highest paid safety in the NFL HURDUR" as if star players don't **** up here and there.
You know that's how CP rolls daddio, as soon as Berry misses a tackle, or gets beat deep some dumbshit is going to scream about the money.

My favorites are where some of these non coaching, non playing, non scouting numbnuts try and tell everyone what Berry's assignment was supposed to be (with absolutely no insight to the matter whatsoever) and how he ****ed it up.

RunKC 03-16-2017 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12785719)
Exactly. You give Alex a bunch of Donnie Averys, Dexter McClusters, and Anthony Fasanos, and he throws for 3200ish yards. You give him Jeremy Maclins and Travis Kelces, and he throws for 3200ish yards.

Draft some rookies, and in a cheap veteran or two, and the offense is the ****ing same.
I think they will do exactly that next month, sir.

Valiant 03-16-2017 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12781260)
Has to be, the market has really bottomed out on lineman, 3-4 interior and run stuffers in this new era. They are almost like the fullback on offense at this point.

There was a time when big fat Tony Siragusa or a Pat Williams had tons of value. Today not so much.

We got Poes best years and replaced him with basically a comparable nobody for pennies on the dollar. You could probably argue that Logan and a Chris Jones offseason/improvement into a starters role is an UPGRADE for the Chiefs rather than a net loss.
I believe when you get another hoss on that level they will be paid again at a decent amount. But no one strikes me at that level currently that is a fa.
They are becoming like FAs. Use and abuse on first contract then discard before the money escalates. Even easier if you have a franchise qb.

RealSNR 03-16-2017 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12785729)
I think they will do exactly that next month, sir.
Do you think this is Maclin's last year in KC?

Chromatic 03-16-2017 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12785719)
Exactly. You give Alex a bunch of Donnie Averys, Dexter McClusters, and Anthony Fasanos, and he throws for 3200ish yards. You give him Jeremy Maclins and Travis Kelces, and he throws for 3200ish yards.

Draft some rookies, and in a cheap veteran or two, and the offense is the ****ing same.
But, if you give him prime Rice, Megatron, Moss, and TO and he might end up cracking 3900. He might even break 25 TDs.

-King- 03-16-2017 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12785610)
The Chiefs spent premium money on a NT for a one year deal? Why? It's not like he is the missing piece to make a Super Bowl run. You still have an anemic offense you have to address.

Seems like a waste.
So they shouldn't address needs on defense because their offense isn't good?
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BossChief 03-16-2017 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12785714)
What is Berry suppose to do to live up to the deal? Rarely do players meet or exceed the expectations of the fans when given a blockbuster contract.

I expect Berry to continue to be Berry and do as he's always done. I expect the dipshits around here to use the contract as a reason to rip Berry every time he makes a mistake. "Highest paid safety in the NFL HURDUR" as if star players don't **** up here and there.
Eric has to play at the level he did in 2016 consistently through the contract to justify that kind of payday. I don't think that's unfair to say, either.
13m per is game changer type money.

ToxSocks 03-16-2017 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12785984)
Eric has to play at the level he did in 2016 consistently through the contract to justify that kind of payday. I don't think that's unfair to say, either.
13m per is game changer type money.
And i expect he will. He always has, despite his detractors.

I don't expect that he'll have game winning pick-6's ala 2016, but Berry has been the same guy since landing in KC.

Sometimes splash plays present themselves and sometimes they don't. But he's been consistently good. Sometimes the only thing fans recognize as skill are big time interceptions. Berry brings much more to the table than interceptions though. Always has.

BossChief 03-16-2017 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12785994)
And i expect he will. He always has, despite his detractors.

I don't expect that he'll have game winning pick-6's ala 2016, but Berry has been the same guy since landing in KC.

Sometimes splash plays present themselves and sometimes they don't. But he's been consistently good. Sometimes the only thing fans recognize as skill are big time interceptions. Berry brings much more to the table than interceptions though. Always has.
He was on another level in 2016 than he was in 2010-2015.

I think he was the best safety in the league last year where he was top 5-10 before that.

Jmo.

I think the more he grows into the role of playing in coverage more and being a playmaker...the more deadly this defense can be...to live up to that contract though, he needs to continue to ascend.

Chiefnj2 03-16-2017 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12785969)
So they shouldn't address needs on defense because their offense isn't good?
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What good is a one year contract when the offense hasn't done anything to overcome its biggest problems?

RippedmyFlesh 03-16-2017 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 12785770)
I believe when you get another hoss on that level they will be paid again at a decent amount. But no one strikes me at that level currently that is a fa.
They are becoming like FAs. Use and abuse on first contract then discard before the money escalates. Even easier if you have a franchise qb.
You can do that with every position with the right qb


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