Sonofa!!!

Alex "The Surgeon" Smith.

Speculation.

:thumb:

That was my point to the guy I asked. Romo is too inconsistent.

He'll need a doctor's note the next timeAlex misses a game due to injury.

There is a difference between inconsistent and being a choke artist. Eli is somewhat inconsistent but he is clutch. Romo is usually pretty good unless it counts.

Dude, duuude... c'mon, don't stand on the buckboard and sell that snake oil...

Those two players have sooo very little in common, Smythe may not be a Montana and Unitas lovechild, but his airspace is a full mile above cassel...

Can you ATLEAST wait six games to render a Final Judgement?

Will 3-3 on a new team under a new system be enough?

Or do you want to be an aristocrat who demands 4-2?

That's all i want, just give me the parameters of your wrath... just what is it going to take, regular season to get us into the playoffs, to say "hey, maybe its not the end of the world just yet!"

In what way has his leadership this off-season been huge?

:LOL:

I know. I just like to say stop it to things that aren't possible LMAO

Everyone from Reid and Dorsey on down has talked about his leadership. For that matter so did everyone in SF when he was there. Alex Smith is a leader, and pretty much everyone outside the CP crybaby crew knows that.

So, again, what positive impact has Alex Smith's leadership had on this team?

I mean, we've never heard similar things about previous QBs. Most notably, our last broke dick was praised repeatedly for organizing off-season workouts.

Still speculation unless you're in the locker room. For all anyone knows, it could simply be lip service.

He removed the chalk outline in the parking lot.

Well, the season hasn't started yet, so that remains to be seen.

So your essentially talking out your ass?

It seems to be a pretty universal opinion dating back for years on two different teams. There must be something about it. You don't see the same thing happening with Phillip Rivers or a number of other QBs with poor leadership skills. It typically becomes well known when a QB isn't a good leader.

Not at all. Smith's leadership is well documented but the effect on the team isn't evident yet since they haven't played a game that counts.

So was Matt cassels.


I'd wait to see how it translates to wins before I start getting to hard

Then how has his leadership been a huge offseason success? A success of what?

Pardon me, you didn't initially say that so I take that back

How exactly does Rivers has poor leadership skills? The reports I've read have been that his teammates love him. The guy played a playoff game with a torn ACL.

Seriously, please link these reports and/or quotes from former/current players talking about Rivers poor leadership qualities. I'd love to read them.

It's all rival fan "perception".

Rival fans see him as a "whiny, crybaby" because he gets emotional on the sidelines. They have no idea what happens in the locker room.

I know for a fact that Weddle loves him. I'm sure the other guys in the locker room do as well.

For all of the Chargers shortcomings during his career, Phillip Rivers has been the least of their problems.

What we see as a whiny ass behavior just means he actually cares about his craft and isn't there just to collect a paycheck.

I'd like to see people legitimately argue against having Rivers as KC's QB.

Well, I could argue against it in 2013 (way too many turnovers the past two seasons, declining skills, etc.).

But from 2004-2011? No way.

Hes a headcase. Id MUCH rather have Alex.

That's what I meant to stipulate.

Division Champions. :harumph:

Be careful what you wish for. 2010 says hello.
It's not so much stats as how confident you are in him. I wasn't on the Green band wagon early but I always felt he could win games. Not the best in the league but good enough to get the job done in a non Dilfer way.
If Alex can be a top 10 type qb we will be good short term. If not Reid loves to throw too much to not make a switch. And unlike the last regime who said they would draft a qb every year, Reid gets qb's the way women get shoes.
Reid has shown he won't sit still at the qb position which is what we want.

Exactamundo.

I remember reading the same crap about "leadership" with Cassel and then reading that ROFL fluff piece during the CBA offseason where he tried calling all his teammates to try and organize player ran practices and the only guys to show ip didn't even make the team.

Players follow quarterbacks they believe gives them a chance to win every game, not guys that are nice guys that give money to bums.

OMG you guys are wacked...alice will get smashed....

I would much rather have somebody that SUCKS Ass THEN A HEADcase:banghead:

Jets sign Graham Harrell

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/n...ex-ryan-082713

What a piece of shit Greg McElroy is.

Yeah, I told you this would happen. A divide in the fan base. By week 4, people will be calling for him to get benched. It may happen by week 9. Either that or he gets hurt from taking hits due to his lack of pocket presence and the 35+ sacks he will take. He will make your O-Line and WR look worse then they are. He will make your TEs and RBs look like stud though with those 5 yard hitch routes, crosses and checkdowns.

I've watched this guy all his career, almost every pass. His ceiling is like 20 touchdowns a season. His career high is 17, and that was on the stacked niner team which the defense provided so many three and outs and turnovers. Followed by a three and out by us. Akers broke the NFL record for field goals in 2011. LMAO

Haven't you died of ebolaids yet?

He's done.

****, maybe I should become a biological warfare specialist. If we go to war with Syria, I'd probably be in high demand to replicate this virus.

You also got him infected through the internet and his computer. I'm pretty sure this has not been done before, and we are looking at a new classification of biological weapon.

Scary stuff actually.

Rolls off the tongue when you say it.

It will be great watching the Chiefs down by 2 TDs in the 4th and Alex stilll checking down to his RB on 3rd and long.

It's fascinating and horrific that Alex haters from SF have flocked over to KC forums to talk shit about him. That takes some serious butthurt.. no doubt elicited from years of talking shit about him and then watching him stick it to you be playing very well the last two seasons. Ooops. Guess Alex made them look really stupid and they mad. LOLz!

Hate on, bros! Just appreciate.. Alex owns yo ass to make you come over here and keep the hate going like this. http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3193/vikeslogo.gif

Geno wears #7, Matt Cassel wore #7, therefore Geno is the exact same as Cassel. We should probably name him Chocolate Cassel.

Geno's big arm and plus mobility alone separates him from Cassel.

GTFO

Chocolate Cassel it is, the end result is the same.

Did you not see the way he threw those horrible picks and stepped out of the back of the endzone with absolutely no pocket awareness? His awesome mobility helped out significantly in that situation.

#7 Chocolate Cassel.

If you say so, I'll stick with Smith.

HAHA THE PINSTRIPE BOWL... WHEN IT ALL CAME CRASHING DOWN FOR GENO

LMAO

You guys are brutal.

Smart move.

The same crap? Alex Smith organized a camp during that same period where everyone except for Michael Crabtree showed up, and here is the rub. Alex Smith didn't have a contract......
nah, it came crashing down way before that.

It came down when he got exposed against Kansas State. That was the first team WVU played that had any semblance of a defense and he got crushed.

Apparently, you haven't seen Harrell play.

Considering your the "analysis" you proffer here, I doubt you've watched football in a decade.

Actually...yes. Yes I have. He looked better in 2009 in GB than our entire roster of shit-eaters at the time. No big fan, though. Glad he's not being "Dorseid" over this way.

Harrell was in the CFL in 2009 and didn't join the Packers until late 2010.

You must be thinking of Flynn.

I thought Harrell was drafted out of TT straight to GB in 2009?

Went undrafted in 2009 and signed with the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

Jeff Rosen ‏@jeff_rosen88 1m

D-Bowe steals show: "I don't know if you'll be seeing many of those one-handed catches this year. (Alex Smith) knows where to put the ball."

Guess I was thinking of Flynn.

Yep, check down to Charles.

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The Jets aren't even playing Geno tonight. Seems like he could use the work.

Did the Jets really not play their rookie QB who had 4 turnovers last game and will start week 1 of the season? How stupid is Rex Ryan?
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Geno has no shot at success in NEW YORK.

Very.
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That's why people say Geno might fail there but it may not have anything to do with him...
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Oh, im aware, but do you know how many stupid people are going to say, "Oh, hes a bust, he couldn't carry the franchise. If he was a true qb, he could lift the franchise. "

Its stupid.

Yes. I've already seen quite a few here on CP.

The mistakes he is making aren't mistakes of a guy who gets it but has a bad team around him.

Bad teammates didn't cause him to step out the back of the end zone or throw directly to several defenders.

You tools need to get a grip.

He didn't throw directly to several defenders.

One of the INTs the receiver made a poor attempt at a catch.

The other he got fooled by a zone blitz he had never seen before.

The third was all on him. High throw.

2 equals several. Get a grip, the next 4 months are going to hurt.

They went all in on Geno and need to save face by using the Jets as an excuse for his failure.

Everyone with a functioning brain knew he was facing incredible odds going to the Jerks.

It is what it is.

Meanwhile, Axl...LMAO

He isn't NFL ready, and that applies to any team. Sure he has a bad situation at the Jets, but he still needs to be better than he has been.

A bust will bust no matter what team he's on. Yeah, NYJ might be a bad environment but if he can be a franchise QB, he should look at least average with them. If he busts out there, he would have bust out anywhere.

Yep.
Geno is going to fail for a variety of reasons, most of all, he's not ready and he's getting thrown to the wolves. His team sucks but so does his head and his attitude. His immaturity is going to be front and center when the shit hits the fan. Add that to a bad team, with all kinds of bad management and Ugly won't even begin to describe his season.

The guys hasn't taken a regulation game NFL snap yet. He is 22 years old. Time we should give him.

Not that I root against him, but watching the Jets spiral out of control into oblivion is rather entertaining.

Perfectly said

True on both accounts, but Geo has shown an immaturity that I think will be detrimental to his success. Well see obviously, but I see aRyan Leaf meltdown coming...

A good player, will bust in crappy situations.

One player, no matter how good, can raise a franchise by himself.

Drew Brees couldn't last year. He is a top 4 qb in the league. But without his coaches, and a shitty defense, his team massively underachieved.

Geno Smith, no matter how good he is, will never succeed if the Jets are in turmoil like they are now.