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WakkaWakka 08-01-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9850311)
It's possible Smith could be the league leader in sacks this year! THE BESTEST!

And trufans will blame our Oline

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-01-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9850318)
Especially with Fisher on the line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakkaWakka (Post 9850319)
And trufans will blame our Oline

It's the standard MO of the True Fan; the line is to blame for every suckass QB the Chiefs put on the field.

Don't be surprised if Bray is starting next season.

WakkaWakka 08-01-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9850324)
Don't be surprised if Bray is starting next season.

PBJ:rockon:

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 09:18 AM

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs713m
Bray with a well placed pass. Bellamy well covered by Conroy Black. Bray puts it only where Bellamy can get it. Bellamy climbs the ladder.

TJ Carpenter‏@TJCarpenterWHB2m
I'll say this, Bray can make throws the other QBs can't. Smith and Daniel aren't placing the ball with strength like Bray. #Chiefs

Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride2m
Bray seems to attempt passes other Chiefs QBs don't, which has been a good and bad thing at times

Messier 08-01-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9850324)
It's the standard MO of the True Fan; the line is to blame for every suckass QB the Chiefs put on the field.

Don't be surprised if Bray is starting next season.

You like the line?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 09:20 AM

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7151s
Starting D sniffs out the Chase Daniel screen pass. No dice. #Chiefs

Pasta Little Brioni 08-01-2013 09:20 AM

Defense sounds badass!!

Messier 08-01-2013 09:20 AM

No dice.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9850342)
Bray sounds badass!!

FYP

RealSNR 08-01-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9850332)
You like the line?

You DON'T like the line?

It's an adequate line. Any real QB should have been able to make do with it.

WakkaWakka 08-01-2013 09:22 AM

“@Jacobs71: Smith overthrows Jamaal Charles on the screen pass. Otherwise TD in the Redzone. #Chiefs”

Dammit Cassel!! ...oh wait

Fat Elvis 08-01-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9850342)
Defense sounds badass!!

I hope so; they are going against the 2s....

Sandy Vagina 08-01-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9850324)
Don't be surprised if Bray is starting next season.

... and then every time Bray struggles, it will be the OL, receiver, inexperience, playcall, etc. to blame.

That's just how it goes. If you like a player, you will make excuses for him. If you dislike the player, everything is always his fault.

:)

Rasputin 08-01-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakkaWakka (Post 9850319)
And trufans will blame our Oline


It will be another excuse to draft Oline with our first ****ing pick. We just can't ****ing win the draft a quarterback battle.

the Talking Can 08-01-2013 09:28 AM

Quote:

Ross Martin @PCBearcat

Bad couple plays there for Jon Baldwin: drops wide open pass on slant and then false starts to end 1s 11-on-11 session. #Chiefs

how the **** can he waste that much talent

WakkaWakka 08-01-2013 09:29 AM

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Hammock Parties 08-01-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakkaWakka (Post 9850354)
“@Jacobs71: Smith overthrows Jamaal Charles on the screen pass. Otherwise TD in the Redzone. #Chiefs”

Year of GoChiefs: Extended Edition

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 08-01-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9850330)
Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride2m
Bray seems to attempt passes other Chiefs QBs don't, which has been a good and bad thing at times

This is my favorite tweet. I loved Andrew Luck's game last year. Just ****ing sling it.

Frosty 08-01-2013 09:37 AM

Two days ago, Demps was generating a lot of buzz. Today it seems to be Thorpe.

Brock 08-01-2013 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9850324)

Don't be surprised if Bray is starting next seasonafter the bye.

.

RealSNR 08-01-2013 09:38 AM

Maybe Baldwin should take ADD meds? It sounds like he can't focus worth shit.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 09:41 AM

Reid Ferrin‏@KCChiefs_Reid5m
Bray's rocket arm gets ball to D Harris, who holds on despite huge hit by Otha Foster III

The Franchise 08-01-2013 09:42 AM

Baldwin is killing me. Jesus Christ ****head....put it together.

Fat Elvis 08-01-2013 09:44 AM

Sounds like Demetrius Harris is catching pretty much everything that Bray (and anyone else) is throwing in his direction. Cut Baldwin's stone hands and give this kid a go. The dude is a former hoops player; 6'7" and runs a 4.57 forty. Bowe runs a 4.51 forty. I know they are looking at Harris as a possible TE, but he and Bowe could be beasting it as WRs in this offense. I mean, how does a 5'11" CB cover a 6'7" reciever with sticky hands?

-King- 08-01-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Jason Madson @Jason_Madson

Bray nearly picked by a diving Zac Diles. #ChiefsCamp
Damn Bray sucks. And he plays against the 3rd team too :harumph:

Chiefs Pantalones 08-01-2013 10:08 AM

It sounds like Bray was doing good again today. I hope he can transition that to the preseason games and keep improving.

Mr. Laz 08-01-2013 10:08 AM

Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride 10m
Stephenson had finger surgery. Out a week or so
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Mr. Laz 08-01-2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9850405)
Baldwin is killing me. Jesus Christ ****head....put it together.

hard to believe he can suck this badly

Sorter 08-01-2013 10:11 AM

LMAO at the first tweet on the scroller.


If season form means multiple ints by Alex Smith...

Rasputin 08-01-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9850473)
LMAO at the first tweet on the scroller.


If season form means multiple ints by Alex Smith...

Kansas City Chiefs ✔ @kcchiefs
Head Coach Andy Reid feels like the QBs did some good things today. Feels good about where they're at.



Well & this from Head Coach.

Frosty 08-01-2013 10:25 AM

I somehow missed that Andre Reed joined the Chiefs' coaching staff. Musta been asleep that day.

Mav 08-01-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9850473)
LMAO at the first tweet on the scroller.


If season form means multiple ints by Alex Smith...

LOL. Its not looking good. I don't like the prospects if andy reid has decided alex smith can throw 40 times a game. eff that.

Mr. Laz 08-01-2013 10:53 AM

Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride 3m
Brad Childress will remain with the Chiefs after camp breaks. Ault headed home after camp but still "available to us" Reid said.
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Direckshun 08-01-2013 10:53 AM

Welp

This thread is depressing.

Fat Elvis 08-01-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

TJ Carpenter @TJCarpenterWHB

Wanna give a shoutout to Chiefs security staff, they gave me a bomb Philly Cheesesteak sandwich to munch on while I'm working. Thanks!
Talk about a change in regimes....

Sorter 08-01-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9850547)
LOL. Its not looking good. I don't like the prospects if andy reid has decided alex smith can throw 40 times a game. eff that.

I'm probably being a bit of a downer. Ints dont worry me necessarily in practice because you should be forcing some throws and trying to see what you can get away with. Complete inaccuracy, lack of pocket awareness and poor ball placement, especially on simple concepts is worrisome. I can't judge that until I get up there this week.

Hammock Parties 08-01-2013 10:57 AM

Poe lost 15-20 lbs is down around 330. Maybe we found us a 1-gapper...

This is awesome.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQmMvbMCQAAIKNG.jpg:large

Rasputin 08-01-2013 10:59 AM

Last year we heard nothing but good reports bs. This year could just be opposite of that and the results Hmmm well?

Sorter 08-01-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9850584)
Poe lost 15-20 lbs is down around 330. Maybe we found us a 1-gapper...

This is awesome.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQmMvbMCQAAIKNG.jpg:large

If there is a DL God, please let Poe be a monster.

Mav 08-01-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9850581)
I'm probably being a bit of a downer. Ints dont worry me necessarily in practice because you should be forcing some throws and trying to see what you can get away with. Complete inaccuracy, lack of pocket awareness and poor ball placement, especially on simple concepts is worrisome. I can't judge that until I get up there this week.

Im optimistic, with a sense of realism. I am loving the fact that they are saying that Bray can put the ball anywhere he wants.

I too like the fact that Alex is trying to make passes. Im gonna wait till week one. The preseason matters not at all to me. I don't expect Alex to play much. I really want to see Kelce, Davis, and Bray!!

Hammock Parties 08-01-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9850596)
I too like the fact that Alex is trying to make passes.

he needs to courage

The Franchise 08-01-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9850584)
Poe lost 15-20 lbs is down around 330. Maybe we found us a 1-gapper...

This is awesome.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQmMvbMCQAAIKNG.jpg:large

If you didn't mention Poe....I would've thought that was DJ.

Hammock Parties 08-01-2013 11:02 AM

It is DJ.

Rasputin 08-01-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9850584)
Poe lost 15-20 lbs is down around 330. Maybe we found us a 1-gapper...

This is awesome.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQmMvbMCQAAIKNG.jpg:large



I want to see a line up of T.Jax LE J. Powe lined up in the middle and D. Poe @RE and see if we can get a push and crush the inside with a blitz of DJ coming hard.

The Franchise 08-01-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9850603)
It is DJ.

Well **** you for confusing me.....asshole.

Hammock Parties 08-01-2013 11:03 AM

Poe looking slightly svelte for a 330lber

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQmH3ZBCQAAeA0N.jpg:large

RealSNR 08-01-2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9850592)
If there is a DL God, please let Poe be a monster.

Hell, I'd just appreciate a stat god at this point.

We're what... 0/12,342 for drafting interior defensive line/3-4 DEs in the past 10 years? And how many of them have been 1st rounders?

I don't care how bad the coaching or the situation is. We should have hit on ONE of those ****ing picks by now. It better ****ing be Poe.

Sorter 08-01-2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9850596)
Im optimistic, with a sense of realism. I am loving the fact that they are saying that Bray can put the ball anywhere he wants.

I too like the fact that Alex is trying to make passes. Im gonna wait till week one. The preseason matters not at all to me. I don't expect Alex to play much. I really want to see Kelce, Davis, and Bray!!

I feel like the preseason brings with it a lot variables, which is why its hard to evaluate.


DJs report on Bray reminded me of how little to take from these tweets.

Sorter 08-01-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9850615)
Hell, I'd just appreciate a stat god at this point.

We're what... 0/12,342 for drafting interior defensive line/3-4 DEs in the past 10 years? And how many of them have been 1st rounders?

I don't care how bad the coaching or the situation is. We should have hit on ONE of those ****ing picks by now. It better ****ing be Poe.

It's embarrassing

ShortRoundChief 08-01-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9850615)
Hell, I'd just appreciate a stat god at this point.

We're what... 0/12,342 for drafting interior defensive line/3-4 DEs in the past 10 years? And how many of them have been 1st rounders?

I don't care how bad the coaching or the situation is. We should have hit on ONE of those ****ing picks by now. It better ****ing be Poe.

He did kiss Goodell for good luck.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 11:11 AM

I made the Nick Jacobs mad.

Dante84 08-01-2013 11:12 AM

I think Poe is the real deal. May not be all world, but i think the dude will be a good player for years to come.

Sorter 08-01-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9850615)
Hell, I'd just appreciate a stat god at this point.

We're what... 0/12,342 for drafting interior defensive line/3-4 DEs in the past 10 years? And how many of them have been 1st rounders?

I don't care how bad the coaching or the situation is. We should have hit on ONE of those ****ing picks by now. It better ****ing be Poe.

Meanwhile, Sheldon Richardson is doing quite well.

God dammit Fisher.

Tribal Warfare 08-01-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9850609)
Poe looking slightly svelte for a 330lber

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQmH3ZBCQAAeA0N.jpg:large

so he's slimmed to 330 in comparison to his combine weight of 346 . Hmm, interesting it would definitely indicate he's going to play more DE in the "hybrid" scheme at least.

Dr. Van Halen 08-01-2013 11:21 AM

I was at camp (it's a few minutes from my house) and I have to say the gloom and doom is exaggerated.

Smith is having timing problems. The D is ahead of the O. Reid is experimenting. Bray does look good, but some of his reads are bad.

All of this is standard fare, I think, for all of the newness.

Also, don't judge the team based as tweets. It's hot and nobody has the energy to tweet ordinary and boringly successful plays.

Sorter 08-01-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 9850667)
I was at camp (it's a few minutes from my house) and I have to say the gloom and doom is exaggerated.

Smith is having timing problems. The D is ahead of the O. Reid is experimenting. Bray does look good, but some of his reads are bad.

All of this is standard fare, I think, for all of the newness.

Also, don't judge the team based as tweets. It's hot and nobody has the energy to tweet ordinary and boringly successful plays.

I'd tweet the formation, front, coverage, Playcall, and result if I were paid for it.

Also, if I had a tweeter.

Hammock Parties 08-01-2013 11:34 AM

SOLID DAY OF WORK FOR OUR AWESOME QB

Quote:

Smith forces a pass to Avery in double coverage. No dice.

Smith goes deep to Baldwin on the post. No dice. Neiko Thorpe on the coverage.

Apparently Alex Smith must have great stuff today but is struggling w command and control

Smith puts to much air on the fade to Bowe

Smith overthrows Jamaal Charles on the screen pass.

Greg Castillo and Husain Abdullah come on a blitzes from the left side. Alex Smith sacked

Alex Smith gets flushed out of the pocket when 1st town options aren't there. Fasano goes out on the TE delay. Smith overthrows.

Alex pump fakes and throws to DMC. Flowers steps in front of it. ... Pick 6

Alex's ball is tipped and picked by Kendrick

Neiko Thorpe deflects the Alex Smith pass to Bowe

Alex Smith pass tipped at the LOS. Anthony Fasano still catches the deflection.

Defense collapses the pocket. Alex is sacked

Alex Smith over throws a wide open Travis Kelce on a corner route.

third play, Flowers on Bowe, overthrown



bonus:

Quote:

Jon Baldwin with a TERRIBLE drop. No.coverage in the endzone right over the middle. Just awful. Worse than the Charles drop

WhawhaWhat 08-01-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9850725)
SOLID DAY OF WORK FOR OUR AWESOME QB

Season's over guys. Let's all pack it in.

Messier 08-01-2013 11:36 AM

No dice.

Fat Elvis 08-01-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9850632)
He did kiss Goodell for good luck.

A long, deep, wet, passionate kiss at that....

BigCatDaddy 08-01-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9850725)
SOLID DAY OF WORK FOR OUR AWESOME QB






bonus:

In other news

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...-training-camp

Dr. Van Halen 08-01-2013 11:59 AM

One thing at camp that was really funny today -- some guy in an authentic Stanzi jersey kept loudly criticizing every QB pass other than Stanzi's.

Just a reminder that we all have QB bias.

BigCatDaddy 08-01-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 9850805)
One thing at camp that was really funny today -- some guy in an authentic Stanzi jersey kept loudly criticizing every QB pass other than Stanzi's.

Just a reminder that we all have QB bias.

Boss went up to camp today?

Messier 08-01-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9850794)

That's it. I'm gonna root for the Jets.

Rasputin 08-01-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 9850805)
One thing at camp that was really funny today -- some guy in an authentic Stanzi jersey kept loudly criticizing every QB pass other than Stanzi's.

Just a reminder that we all have QB bias.


Not me I think they all suck until proven otherwise.


I hear good things about Bray but until they play games he is just another player trying to make the roster.

Setsuna 08-01-2013 12:10 PM

Alright guys I'll take one for the team and do the lone female Niners troll. Tell everyone my story....:deevee:

ptlyon 08-01-2013 12:11 PM

DOOMED

4-12

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 12:16 PM

TJ Carpenter‏@TJCarpenterWHB1m
Chiefs Rookie stock 8-1-13: 1. Travis Kelce (up) 2. Knile Davis (down) 3. Tyler Bray (up) 4. Nico Johnson (down) 5. Eric Fisher (-)

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 12:21 PM

Josh‏@mr_tomahawk2m
@TJCarpenterWHB sounds like QBs struggled in general today...? Is this correct?

TJ Carpenter‏@TJCarpenterWHB35s
@mr_tomahawk yes. Bray had some WOW throws today.

Fat Elvis 08-01-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9850861)
TJ Carpenter‏@TJCarpenterWHB1m
Chiefs Rookie stock 8-1-13: 1. Travis Kelce (up) 2. Knile Davis (down) 3. Tyler Bray (up) 4. Nico Johnson (down) 5. Eric Fisher (-)

****in' Fisher :shake:

BigCatDaddy 08-01-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9850894)
****in' Fisher :shake:

#Safe Pick #BPA

Setsuna 08-01-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9850910)
#Safe Pick #BPA

Que the True fan gif

WakkaWakka 08-01-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9850809)
That's it. I'm gonna root for the Jets.

I did that when the Redskins moved up and grabbed RG3. I followed RG3 all through college so kinda just kept on following him.

RealSNR 08-01-2013 12:52 PM

I don't care if he turns into the next Tony Boselli. I'm still glad we didn't draft this fat piece of shit.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/8/...p-luke-joeckel

Sully 08-01-2013 01:02 PM

*****OFFICIAL 2013 Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp Thread*****
 
Went today. My brief and humble thoughts...

I miss River Falls. Much easier to get around. Much better sight lines. Better to see the whole of the action without moving around a ton.

That said...

Standouts:
Really hard to tell, as it was rarely 1s vs 1s, but,

Albert
Hudson
Charles
Hemingway
Poe and Powe
Houston
D Johnson
Sean smith
Edgar Jones
DeVito

Not bad, but not great
T Jax
Chavis
Schwartz
Toribio
Wylie
Fisher

Had a bad day;
Alex Smith
Baldwin
Kush (awful)


I wasn't terribly impressed with Knile Davis. Thought he played soft.
I see the intrigue with Bray. Looks the part. Amazing arm.
Smith was bad, even against air. I refuse to bitch and moan about him. There's enough of that on the board, and it's boring as hell. Plus, what's done is done. Obviously it's just one day... But he looked BAD.
Kelce had a rough morning. Missed a couple, and fumbled during two-minute.
Wylie looks real good. Quick and fast. Lets hope he can stay out of the tub.
A lot more motion and shifts than we've seen, maybe since the Vermiel days.
Not a ton of yelling by the coaches. Lots of teaching. But it's still very disciplined. I think they have the respect of the players, and don't have to peel paint to keep it.
I really like the little things they are working on, that I never really saw in previous camps. Hand placement and replacement. Hip movement to beat blocks. Alignment. Playing vs pulls, traps and doubles. Very intentional drills, rather than busywork that I feel I used to see. To expand, what I mean is, in the river falls days, you'd see the lines hit the hell out of the sleds. While that's important, that type of movement is only part of what builds skills on the line. They hit the sleds today, but also then worked on those other things I mentioned, which will make them (hopefully) better at shedding blocks and being part of the play. The same thing was happening Offensively. Just very intentional drills focused on body movements they'll actually use rather than pushing a sled 20 yards.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-01-2013 01:14 PM

But DJ said Bray didn't look the part...bad mechanics, etc...

Sully 08-01-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9851097)
But DJ said Bray didn't look the part...bad mechanics, etc...

I haven't read what else people have said, and I admit, I'm far from a pro scout. But in my humble opinion, he's got some tools to work with.

Rasputin 08-01-2013 01:17 PM

If Eric Fisher doesn't get his shit together and show his worth as a 1.1 pick or even fairly does a decent job this year, then Brandon Albert price tag goes up. Brandon Albert is going be sitting pretty at the bank next spring. His worth will go up if Fisher isn't anything the Chiefs were hoping for.

KC_Lee 08-01-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9850938)
Que the True fan gif

Laz will neg rep me for this :D but when asked for...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2n66pf.jpg

RealSNR 08-01-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9851115)
If Eric Fisher doesn't get his shit together and show his worth as a 1.1 pick or even fairly does a decent job this year, then Brandon Albert price tag goes up. Brandon Albert is going be sitting pretty at the bank next spring. His worth will go up if Fisher isn't anything the Chiefs were hoping for.

That was always the danger with the Fisher pick. Frankly, I was stunned we picked him over Joeckel. The small school thing can mean a far bigger adjustment that needs to get made.

Fisher will be fine, but it's possible he gets drafted to be a starting LT, gets set in at RT for a few years like Oher or Bulaga, and just never makes the switch back. And frankly, I'd be fine with that. At least that would mean we'd be keeping Albert.

Bulaga is switching to LT this year for the Packers. We'll see how he does. If his play during his rookie year was any sign for us, though, it means Fisher may need some time to struggle and figure things out. Again, usually there's nothing wrong with that, but when you draft a position like RT at 1.1, the expectations are way above the norm, even for most high-profile 1st round OTs.


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