So? It's eventually going to be a td anyway. If they bring pressure maybe they force a bad pass or get a sack and get off the field

1) I agree completely. I've long complained about Reid being this teams biggest enemy when they get a big lead early. It happens to a lot of teams but Reid's teams seem to be especially flat. The offense goes vanilla and full of 3 and outs and the defense stops attacking. Teams like NE (of previous seasons) have no problems running up the score until it's safe to let off the throttle. We do it at half time....regularly.

2) I don't agree. Not all teams run soft zones 3rd and long. Bad defenses do. You won't see a Wade Phillips defense do this. You won't see great defenses do this.

3) He doesn't have to. The defensive talent says otherwise. Hell, Peters played off man coverage a ton. You can't have a good pass rush if you give up 5 yard+ quick passes every down because your corners play soft.

I've hated Sutton before he was brought here and he hasn't given me a reason not to. He needs multiple star players to field a decent defense. This team should have fired him and moved from to the 4-3 because their talent was better equipped for it.

Where is my vague 4pm update on the situation? I need news, dammit.

Do Reid/Veach view this as a developmental year for Mahomes fully knowing that the defense is below average? Given Mahomes is lighting it up and the playoffs look very attainable will they be tempted to change course? The fanbase will riot if Chiefs lose their first playoff game because of a defensive collapse.
I think the holdup is simply because Seattle is asking for too much.

I think they did view it that way but I assume that has changed. No one could have predicted this start by him. This is a Superbowl quality offense. I think the Chiefs will make some moves to shore up the defense but I don't know if it will be ET.

Is it done yet

Just a couple thousand more posts should seal it.

The outcry from a defensive collapse in the playoffs would make "Save Our Chiefs" look like a light argument.

If we keep on posting, we can "will" it into fruition. I know it!

There's also the chance that they're crappy DB's give up a long TD in 40 seconds instead of 4 minutes. That's a HUGE thing because the clock is finite.

Plus if they forced 10-play drive, that's more chances for the offense to make a mistake, which has directly lead to more than 1 victory against the Chargers. It goes both ways.

I'm asking

You should try watching a few games on the weekend. Every team does it, some teams A LOT. Even good teams.

Unless you think Bill Belichik is a moron too.

Report back with your findings post haste.

Stat!

Baby Jesus weeps every time this thread gets bumped for random bickering and no trade news.

Nothing of merit though just speculation unfortunately.

Dude, it's CP. What did you expect?

Poop?

Packers signed Bashaud Breeland. There’s one upgrade that’s off the board

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The entire trade won't happen because Berry and Thomas wear the same number.

so I wonder how tampering works on this? If we reach out to the Seahawks we can talk to them but not ET or his agent ,right ???

Oh no.

When you get housed by Alex Smith you just have to say **** it and enough is enough

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This is what happens when you let that other thread die

Not until the Seahawks say it's okay.

Marcus Peters thinks KC blows and wanted to play somewhere else.

It's easier to move on if you just accept that she doesn't want to be with you.

I'll cross my fingers that Fuller doesn't get into physical altercations with the coaching staff too.

ROFL

Megathread>>>>

Don't worry. Our announcement is coming soon.









I hope.

Our need for another safety is several times larger than our need for a CB. Would rather have Earl Thomas 1000 times over Breeland.

Busy day in the Packers secondary: Bashaud Breeland signs and Davon House (shoulder) goes to IR.

This times a billion.

ROFL

This ×1000

Agreed!!! But, I’m curious what took so long for Breeland to get signed. Did he just now get healthy? Such a strange deal. But, YES, Thomas over Breeland any day of the week... hopefully Tuesday is that day! :thumb:

Posters need to quit bitching about Josh Jackson. If that dude was so good they wouldn’t be doing this.

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Agreed.

Scandrick is actually playing okay. Better than Amerson anyway.

Well the Dolphins apparently said he couldn't pass a physical a couple of weeks ago or so.

It will be interesting to see if actually plays right away in Green Bay.

The mods ****ed up our chances with Bashaud, hopefully this thread doesn't get moved to the romper room too...

Gang, reports say it'll take a minimum of 3k posts to Garner interest from him.

After he sees this thread and tastes some Joe's bbq he'll be begging for us to take him.

But don't take him to the practice facility. We don't want him getting Bafraud's foot aids

I've sent him the Bates City vaca package...he's accepted a salary discount!!

Someone tell which me which one of these players is better than Thomas? Obviously Hill...but thats where it ends.

So we have 2 seconds, surely to God Veach has offered one of them

Believing that to be true, one has to wonder just WTF Seattle is asking... it must be ridiculous whatever it is

This guy + Berry would help SO much, we'd be set back there for, presumably, at least 2 more years... 18, 19 and 20, that's worth that 2nd eight days a week

What else besides a 2nd could they possibly bite on?

deadfoot got over 3500..we got this

Seattle is asking for the moon......as they should be. It doesn't mean that's what they'll get....but they can ask for it.

Yep, I’m curious how that will play out. Either way though, like you said, I’m all in on Thomas over Breeland.

I'm sure they want a 1st round pick. Chiefs are likely picking very late in the first round. Not much different than picking in the 2nd round. I think it's worth trading the late 1st round pick for him.

Well, that is a hot topic.

Goddamn it's nice having htismaqe back talking ball.

Seconded

This years second, next years third?

I have no idea if that's fair or even feasible, just throwing shit at the wall trying figure out Seattles game here...

I heard this am that it was a 1st and a starter. So if that’s true, it’s going to be awhile before they make a deal. Unless Thomas causes an issue in the locker room, highly unlikely, the Hawks can be patient. Whereas the Chiefs have a desperate need.

Chiefs won't be paying that.

Heard that where?

So we can give them the 32nd overall pick and Eric Murray? Deal!

Send them our 1st and Eric Murray. He's currently our starter. LOL

LMAO

No one is paying that for a nearly 30 year old safety, no matter how great he is.

This would be my max offer

As long as Seattle agrees to it we can basically do whatever the **** we want.

I'd give them one of this year's 2nd's and next year's 2nd, no problem.

If Alex Smith is worth that, Earl Thomas ABSOLUTELY is.

Kind of odd. It sounded like the Cowboys and Seahawks were close on a trade with just a 2nd rounder as compensation, and now they want a 1st+starter?

I wouldn't say that, it's only desperate if it is the roadblock between winning and losing.

PMII, makes this a supplementary need.

No one is paying that much and giving him a new deal

Moral of the story seems to be the Seahawks don’t really wanna trade him and don’t really wanna pay him

They don't really want to trade him to Dallas, I guarantee that's what it's about.

I think brc misheard. That hasn’t been anywhere across the airwaves today

Pretty good way to lose a locker room and piss off a fanbase. He took a discount to keep the core together and now they're all gone and you're doing him like this?

I never saw that. It sounded to me like the Cowboys offered a 2nd rounder and Seattle said "not even close".

No team is going to give a 1st rounder+$50 mill contract for a 29 year old safety...maybe if he was 27. Seattle is in danger of causing a LR distraction and losing Earl for nothing at the end of the year. I cant think having him disgruntled and skipping out on practice is a good vibe all season

1st rounders are gold...5 years of cheap labor.

It’s gonna end up being a leveon situation.

Why these teams get into these situations is beyond me

That’s not happening. Here’s a 2nd and Eric Murray

LMAO

I wouldn't call the Chiefs 1st rounders "gold". Gold doesn't smell like that...

It’s his third contract as well.

A 2nd and a conditional 5 should get it done but the Seahawks will **** around and kiss him off

I'd just dip out at this point if Seattle is going full reerun. Let them **** the situation up even more and swoop in when the situation is beyond repair.

Yep.

Meh

Maybe he'll start publicly contemplating retirement again.

Max I'd go is a 1st round pick for Thomas and a 4th.