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Ogbah was the #1 pick in the 2nd round (33)....4 picks later than KC just traded. Why arent people more excited about him and his premier draft status? Draft order is arbitrary...#13 is certainly better than #27, right?...like 14 better. Chiefs just dumped all their over-priced veterans...and replaced them with younger versions. They are using their cheap QB window.. I dont like the practice of giving up high draft capital...but the purpose of keeping it is so you can afford/offset high end players. Chiefs can now afford them due to Mahomes. |
Ah shit. Thanks for the picks but Frank Clark is a freak. I was hoping we could work out a deal but when he didn’t sign the FT tender I knew his time in Seattle was over. Enjoy a 12 sack per year beast.
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Clark instantly makes your pass rush upper echelon
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Frank is good but not appreciably better than Ford |
Defensively the Chiefs looked lousy as a unit but you got Mahomes so he makes up for deficiencies on D.
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We have MULTIPLE deals where cp found the comp to be headscratching or underwhelming. Not critical of the deal, just underwhelmed with what we negotiated. We can either try to individually either justify or in some cases make excuses for each of multiple bad deals. I'm just pointing to a pattern. |
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Nick Wright: Does acquiring Frank Clark make Chiefs SuperBowl favorites
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Should they just hoard it? They landed a top end, young player...and were a neutral zone infraction away from the SB. |
I’ve never seen a guy that is massively disruptive on the line and edge and can single handedly influence the outcome of a game with a strip six or a big hit in the backfield. His motor is non stop and we rotate a lot but he stays on the field. We’re gonna take a huge step back defensively in Seattle but I hope we draft well.
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How as a player could you not want to come play with this kid - even as a defender? |
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Now with that $40m, what do you do? Fair question and why I'm open to an aggressive trade for Clark. But the other options aren't necessarily bad either. You could spend or trade on multiple players immediately to fill multiple holes. You could frontload the hell out of Chris jones and tyreek (assuming he's good to go) so we have more flexibility to make big moves next year or even after the big mahomes contract. Again, I get why we went with the Clark strategy. But arguably it also puts more pressure to win in the next three years where being more patient gives us a lot more flexibility to extend our window beyond 3 years. |
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If Clark proves to be Jared Allen when he was traded for a much bigger haul to the Minnesota Vikings, no one will be complaining but right now, this trade and contract don't look so good.
Jared Allen was a better player than Frank Clark though when he was traded. |
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ds-for-success (article is old in terms of rookie contracts but analysis is sound) An NFL contract is for anticipated future production. It is far more reasonable to believe that Clark will produce in the future than a rookie, even a first round rookie. The nice thing about the Clark contract is that it is essentially a 3 year contract, giving us his best years and allowing us out at a small price if he doesn't work out. The downside is the cost against the cap next year and the following. Of course, if the defense doesn't shit the bed and Mahomes gets us to the SB, nobody will bitch about the cost. |
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I dont care about 3-4 years from now...it's SB or bust for the next 2. Brady, Rivers and Big Rape will all be gone soon...Mahomes will own the AFC when/if money gets tight. We also dont know if the cap is going to explode with the new CBA....all this back-n-forth might be meaningless soon and KC could have enough money to keep everyone happy. |
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All this "be patient, we're building a dynasty" talk is ridiculous. The team was one 5-yard penalty away from its first Super Bowl in 50 freaking years. The time is NOW. |
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The structuring on all of these deals is good. |
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I really can't complain. I'm all about 2019. Clark's 2019 cap hit is 30% of what Ford's would have been. |
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Lets play out an example. We could still add an ansah, suh, and Maxx Williams and maybe still be in the market for a less aggressive comp for frank clark or Patrick Peterson or who knows who might be trade bait early in the season. Whatever we don't spend, use available cap to frontload Chris jones in 2019 with less cap hit in 2020. In 2020, go after the best of the best. This approach may not get us frank Clark impact in 2019 but it sets us up phenomenally well for 2020 and much better beyond 2020. We've decided to go in on winning today even if it makes it harder to win tomorrow. That's OK. Just pointing out the alternative which isn't bad either. |
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That’s my point though. If they thought a guy like Clark was only slightly better than Flowers, they would’ve gotten more than a 3rd round comp pick for him. |
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that's more than fine if we win a super bowl in this window which we've given ourselves a shot to do. |
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After an evening of sleep, I'm over it. All of it. Just play ball and win. And yes, I expect some major production from Frank Clark. Match Chris Jones step for step, double the effectiveness of our D-line, or go home.
I still believe Veach to be operating beyond his pants size, and he needs to start killing it in the draft. I have also determined that if we can't get proper value for elite players, then they need to stay here and contribute from this time going forward. ( No, that does NOT mean I wish Dee Dipshit Fjord and Justin Lazy-Ass Houston were still here, just as the comment implies ) |
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2. They took the 3rd round comp because they'd rather pay DBs to cover 100% of the time than millions to rushers that are on the field only 2/3 of the time. Given how quickly most offenses get the ball out, it's a pretty sound strategy, too. |
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2. That has nothing to do with a tag and trade. I’m saying if they could’ve gotten more back for him, they would have done just that. Clark was clearly seen as a 1st round value. Flowers value wasn’t seen as “slightly” less than that. Do you get my point yet? |
It’s pretty obvious that Flowers and Ford had similar value. Just like Clark is significantly better than Ford, he’s significantly better than Flowers who’s never had more than 7.5 sacks in a season and nowhere near the level of pass rusher.
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Hitchens and Speaks seemed to be playing out of position...Veach gets one more year. The Berry, Amerson, Scanderick, Parker fiasco was not a good start though...almost criminally negligent and it cost KC a SB. |
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Damn ... Terez is one persistent mother ...
He was the dude who anointed Ragland as the second coming of DJ and he's still carrying holy water for the guy. Incredible. Are they related or something? FAX |
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It's a lot of money to pay for a talented player with baggage. But he fits the scheme, and Houston and Ford were not going to be part of the picture. I would've been fully erect if the Pats got a player of this ability. As for Flowers, the same way Brady makes average WRs look better, Belichick makes average players look better. Even great players (e.g. Richard Seymour) don't shine as bright once they leave. So, no, Flowers is no Clark.
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I have gone to a lot of Seahawk games down the I-5 and I can tell you he’s pretty impressive. Very disruptive borderline unblockable. He’s a stud and on top of that he feels disrespected. This will be a lethal combo
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Veach decides defense with Spags. Veach decides offense with Reid
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Wore 55. FAX |
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To be fair, I've been watching some highlight videos and he seems to do that to a lot of Tackles. |
Is it really unreal that someone pushed Fishers shit in?
Kidding not kidding. |
Pushing shit in?
IS FRANK CLARK GAY? |
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Imagine him lining up against Garrett Bolles LMAO
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And Mahomes and Kelce still made the damn play.
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I just read Seth Keysor’s article about Clark on The Athletic, filled with GIFs of his best plays.
Clark has to be in that upper echelon class of edge rushers—up there with Mack, Bosa, Garrett, Lawrence, Miller... he does some freaky good shit and is a visibly smart player out there. Another point Keysor made—he had little help in Seattle last year around him to rush the passer and was often the target of chips and double teams. With Jones here to push the pocket, he could explode for 15+ sacks. |
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Mahomes is very happy to have him on the team. He knows best...he played against him
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I don't know how much these guys actually go up against each other during regular practice sessions, but hopefully this guy will push Fish-dick to a new level.
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****IN' RUSH HIM!
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"We tried M'lord, but can not penetrate his defense mechanism"!
(glug-glug-glug-glug-glug....) |
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Still completing that side-arm pass is worth $200 million... |
Is it weird that no team has announced the deal yet ? It’s draft day
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Anyone else think Clark reminds you of a prime Jason Pierre Paul?
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