The meat riding is crazy. Doing absolute tricks on him. Are you a Chiefs fan or a Patrick Mahomes groupie? All you people want to talk about is Mahomes Lamar Mahomes Lamar. Yawn.

I've said time and again in this thread that Patrick Mahomes is the man. And Lamar has work to do. I'll chalk it up to a misunderstanding, but I wasn't saying what you're saying I'm saying. I was simply correcting the tired trope that passing yards are the only metric worth looking at. The post I was responding to was making a point that Lamar didn't throw for enough yards while he literally out-gained Mahomes overall.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Lame response… Patrick is the best QB in the league.. Even on one leg.. Don’t think for one minute Lamar could of done what Patrick did last year… You guys are a great team but bottom line is we are the champs and until we get knocked off we deserve respect..

Oh, I'm Chief fan, I've seen the darkness and Mahomes has delivered the light...


You see son, the saying used to be because Chiefs. We would say this when bad things happened. But now we have new saying, it because Mahomes, we say this to honor the past and because he is him... (as the young people say)

I do respect that Chiefs fans know what they have with Mahomes and are soaking it in.

The glazing is insane. Obsessing over a guy like this biases you to the point that you can't see what's right in front of you. If you don't recognize the brilliance of Lamar Jackson because you're so consumed with fluffing Mahomes, that's your loss. Lamar is the only player ever to win the Heisman and the MVP twice. He is revolutionizing the game in many ways. Yes, you are the champs and you deserve all of the respect like I've said dozens of times. But there's a whole wide world out there beyond your guy.

Ironic.

If anyone is catching up from the 7000 posts yesterday, here's your summary of the past 24 hours:


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Try harder.

More like losing the AFC title game in front of your home crowd.

Who will you blame should you lose on Sunday? When will you beat the Chiefs if not this year? Look to What the Bill are now going through...


This will only be the third time (with Patrick), should the Chiefs lose on Sunday. We already know that this was a down year, we are playing with house money. Our floor is the AFCCG, that is your best with Lamar... Just stop trying to equate Patrick with Lamar...

Soft. Either be the bully or don't. This wishy washy BS that "if we lose it was a down year" but "if we win we told you so" is weak. Are you the man who knocks or not? Because you all keep telling me you are, and yet you're simultaneously trying to hedge your bets that if you lose it's "house money." Get outta here with that.

Craig Carton just said we are going to get curb stomped in Baltimore.

Love being the underdog.

Acting like DVOA is "reasons" is such a weird take. DVOA is an attempt to go beyond "reasons" and actually add heft to vacuous opinions that NPCs like the hordes on this message board regurgitate. It's not perfect, but it's something.

Answer the questions...

The Ravens don't have a window. There's no sense of urgency. They've been in contention for the entirety of the franchise's history. We're not the hapless Bills.

If an offense that rolled into the playoffs with Zay Flowers as a rookie, 31-year-old Odell Beckham Jr., Isaiah Likely, Gus Edwards, and Justice Hill loses to the defending champions in the AFC title game, I'll chalk it up to another good season and look forward to next year because I know the Ravens will be back as they always are.

Shit, missed the most obvious one... too early in the morning, apologies and thank you.

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Much better. Thank you!

Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but the Ravens did get an extra day of rest while KC didn't play their Divisional game until Sunday night (to say nothing of the bye the Ravens had). Something to keep an eye on in the 2nd half of the game.

The Chiefs, in the last 6 years, have played 20+ games each season... We good...

awwww

never fails.

LMAO

:D

Oh, buddy.

You guys.

Phil Simms got into this on the radio last week. Basically said that it’s a made up fan thing. These guys have all beat each other to hell for 20 weeks, 24 hrs here or there means nothing to them.

An extra day of prep is the only difference I could see. Although in practice, the opponent still isn't set until the next game goes final. And I suspect that both of these teams did prep work for each other just in case during week 18 when they didn't play their starters.

Yup. He looks like a ****ing JAG after watching Kelce every week. Likely is a fluke joke too

Honestly don’t let that keep you from coming back. Yes you can expect hostility, but it probably won’t be any different than any other message board when a team loses (except for the antifreeze and AIDS fire). Absorb the anger and abuse from some and you will be just fine. This place is unique and once you get used to it, you will find that it’s not the cesspool that other places accuse us of.

With out Mahomes our team doesn’t go to 6 straight AFCCGs, 3 out of 5 Super Bowls and win 2 world championships. ****ing right we ride his meat!

The main thing is playing on concrete last weekend... plus in the past few years, out of Chiefs/Bengals/Bills, the team that's had to play the other two simply doesn't fair as well, which is just stating the obvious that its tougher to win multiple toss up games against SB contenders in back to back weeks (to be seen if the Ravens are one, of course).

These morons truly think because Dilfer beat a complete turd in Kerry Collins in a fluke season that a RB playing QB like Lamar can actually win it all ROFL

I get it now. Kerry Collins and Kap were your Superbowl opponents with turds like Dilfer and Flacco so you actually think QB doesn't matter

You're denying the power of the "playing with house money" mindset in sports?

Christ, your ****ing team has never won jack shit without taking that very mindset to its championship and Super Bowls.

Where was your conviction back then, asshole?

If both QBs retired tmrw, only one is going into the HOF.

No, I'm pretty sure the Joe Fluke-o SB run to him means the Ravens had an elite top 5 QB in the league. The evidence of the Ravens wandering the desert for the next several seasons under the crippling Flacco contract means nothing to him.

That was a magical two years.

Ask last year's Eagles what having the better overall team did for them.

Or the 2019-20 Niners.

Didn't realize Bill Polian was posting on this board...

We wouldn’t expect teams fans who obsess over a qbrb who has a losing playoff record. It’s house money because this is the 6th straight AFCCG. This is Mahomes floor… he lives in this space constantly. A down year is a AFCCG OT loss, a great year is winning MVP, the SB, and SB MVP. Welcome to the first AFCCG of Lamar’s career, on his second contract. Chiefs about to silence the flock, and go back to back. We have the talent, and the pedigree. It’s ALL pressure on LameArm and your team. KC are the champs, and the boogeyman. Any idea how many teams Brady faced in the AFCCG who were the flavor of the week, and got dispatched? You’re just another team, in the way of another SB. It’s just your year for that. Just like it was the Tits, and the Bills, and the Bengals.

I love that these teams haven’t played each other in 2.5 years and historically that usually bodes well for our offense to have not been “seen” in awhile.

This Lamar versus Mahomes matchup somehow feels fresh, even though it was dominating, headlines just a few years ago.

You still left out how LameArm had to tel his coaches what was happening on the field last Saturday. Thank God he’s of uncanny knowledge that even his own coaches don’t know, or understand.

These clowns are the most misinformed fans we’ve had come through to date. And that’s over people who jump through flaming tables, and throw dildos! Embarrassing! I guess when your franchise is still in its infancy stages, you get the young, dumb, and misinformed!

Rudy Tomjonovich, "never underestimate the heart of a champion"

Craig Carton is a ****ing idiot...he's been predicting the Chiefs downfall all season so he has to stick to the schtick.

He doesn't believe a word he's saying...

Even as good as he is and as bad as our WRs have been at times this year, I would not have done it. KC won the SB without him last year and is in the AFCCG this year without him. He would have been a nice piece to have here, but not at $30 million a year. Veach was able to trade him and get some valuable pieces to this roster. I believe McDuffie was one of them. It’s gonna be very hard moving forward to pay any WR market setting money when your QB is one of the highest paid in the league.

LMAO

That's the savant thermodynamics part.

Appreciate you. If nothing else, this place is lively.

TwistedChief said it best that being a visitor here is like warding off wave after wave of zombies. Just constant reinforcements coming out of the woodwork to spout off the same exhausting tropes.

I'm convinced it's a bit at this point. Most civilized places online would laugh at you for calling Lamar Jackson a running back at this point, but the creatures here say it with their chest out.

This place is a throwback to the Wild West days of message boards. Just good old fashion nasty work being done by true internet ghouls. :evil:

There you go moving the goalposts yet again. The question was how did the Ravens lose to the Browns not how has Lamar done in the postseason

Didn't know that was a dynamic with the Chiefs offense.

But definitely applies vice versa. It's why Lamar is 19-1 against NFC teams and why two of our three losses this year were against AFC North teams. The uniqueness/degree of difficulty defending Lamar goes up if you don't see him very often.

What happened to the Ravens D vs the Rams?

Sounds to me that he was Bobby Stropped. What's wrong with what he said.. al he said it's a good feeling to have back 2 back home playoff games.

If I say "tell me something impressive" and you say "I drove to work today", and I laugh at you... and you say "well, I also microwaved my own lunch", and I laugh at you again.... that's not me "moving the goalposts," the issue is your pathetic definition of impressive.

Hope that clears it up.

Well, at least you're not calling us racists for saying Lamar is a RB. Which he is, by the way.

The Rams offense is honestly just good. They're not loaded, but the Stafford/Puka/Kyren/Kupp combination works. Stafford was making incredible timing throws that game and the receivers were coming down with everything. It was also a rainy game too, which can throw a wrench in things.

That Rams and the the second half against the Browns when they came back with Watson were the only times this defense has looked vulnerable. Those are the game plans I would be copying if I was the Chiefs' offense.

Edit: To add, the Rams established the run early. The Ravens have almost invariably been one of the best run defenses in the NFL for many years, but this year they're middle of the pack there. It's by design and has come with the benefit of having the lowest YPA through the air. But they can be had there, and the Rams set that tone early which opened things up for them.

I've always thought Lamar is like if Barry Sanders decided he wanted to play quarterback and also had arm talent. I know it's meant as some sort of disparaging remark, but I honestly think it's pretty cool to watch something different that still works at the highest levels :thumb:

Oh, come on. If Lamar Jackson had accomplished in six seasons what Mahomes has, you'd be just as confident in his abilities.

The FLOOR for a Mahomes-QB'd season is losing in OT of the AFC championship game.

Chiefs fans have seen Mahomes elevate his own roster over more "complete" teams with less at QB time and again. They have seen him win healthy, they have seen him win injured. They have seen him win lighting up opposing teams with the passing game. They have seen him lighting up opposing teams with clutch play after clutch.

They won the Super Bowl against two teams that were "stacked" and more complete and better than KC, with indomitable defenses that were purported to be capable of shutting Mahomes down. He faced one of them with a badly sprained ankle that he re-sprained in the first half.

So yeah, of course, on their OWN message board, Chiefs fans are confident in his ability and point to him as a reason they are confident. He has performed miracles on the football field for this team time and again, enough that if we were talking Catholisiscm here, you could apply for his Sainthood many times over.

The Ravens are at home and have a better all-around roster. They have a star QB, and a strong defense. Most of the Chiefs fans here and most of the discussion in this thread before Ravens fans dipped their toes in was about how this was a tough game and a coin flip, with many even saying the odds are with the Ravens.

And I'll leave with again sharing with you the history of this BB in the Mahomes era:

1. Chiefs make AFC title game or Super Bowl
2. Opposing fans start showing up
3. Opposing fans start out nice, then get surprised the Chiefs fans here are supremely confident
4. Opposing fans start chirping about whatever their perceived edge is (19 Titans: Derrick Henry + beating KC in regular season; 19 49ers: Stacked roster, #1 defense; 20 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, hot team; 21 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, revenge; 22 Bengals: stacked offense, defense that has Reid/Mahomes' number, alien QB with edge on Mahomes, Mahomes is hurt; 22 Eagles: stacked offense, alien QB, #1 defense)
5. Chiefs fans respond by saying "oh, this again." and point to the history of knocking off these teams with the perceived edge
6. Chiefs go win, anyway.

It's old hat.

Final statement: Of opposing fans who have found their way here and gone through this cycle, you have the potential to stick around and have fun no matter the outcome. That's rare.

Now go chug some antifreeze and throw yourself into a flaming dumpster filled with AIDS needles.

In 10 games Mark had 45 Rec for 544 yards woth 6 TDs

In 17 games Kelce had 81 Rec for 838 yards 5 TDs.

In 7 more games Kelce had 36 more rec, less than 300 more yards and 1 less TD.

You tell me the top 3 TE

Lamar Jackson, in fact, had the opportunity to try to play through a lower leg injury and elevate his team.

He chose not to play on one leg.

Limited from Gay is a good sign - seems like he's recovering (rather than a DNP).

"Can you believe it? People on this site think Mahomes is good!"

Your numbers are, well, wrong.

Kelce had 93 receptions for 984 and 5 TDs in 15 games.

Andrews did indeed have the numbers you quote.

If you pace those rates, Kelce averaged more catches and yards per game than Andrews.Andrews did have more touchdowns, though, so, congrats I guess?

Can’t believe that posters on ChiefsPlanet.com are fans of the Chiefs.

Kelce played 15 games, n00b.

C P/G - 4.5 / 6.2
Y P/G - 54.4 / 65.6
TD P/G - 0.6 / 0.33

Now if you want to add his playoff games to get to 17...

6.17 / 66.4 / 0.41

Sit down, n00b.

You mean the guy who sat out a game 16 yds shy of elevating his existing record of seasons w/1k yds?

Or the most TD's in the playoffs?

You tell me.

What's with guys over the last couple of weeks just making up 'stats' from whole cloth?

You guys know FootballReference is a thing, right? And that there's no Jeopardy buzzers here - you don't HAVE to post as quickly as you can. You can look these things up and THEN run your mouth.

You'll look a lot less stupid that way.

Oh shit, one extra day of rest for the Ravens?!

If only the Chiefs had experience playing with a rest deficit… oh wait, see every Chiefs game in the month of December.

Lamar's injury was a much debated topic in Baltimore last year. There are many that thought he could and should have played regardless of if he was 100% Personally I was in the other camp that thought he wasn't well enough to play but he would have played had he thought he could.

Does Lamar “work at the highest levels”?

Six years into his career and he has less playoff wins as a starting QB than Baker Mayfield.

And having watched Mahomes for several years and *checks calendar* it's 2024 and not 1992, we aren’t bowing down in front of someone who's now thrown for 3k yards twice in their career.

Grunhard was talking about using a similar plan via the Bills. DL doesn't all rush. Basically create a wall with gap integrity to make Lamar sit in the pocket while having 6 defenders defending the pass.

Not sure how I feel about that

Good to know that won't be used as an excuse when Baltimore wins
;)

I’m not too worried about the extra day of rest for them but I am annoyed that our defense played damn near 80 snaps in Buffalo. I’m not going to bother checking into how many snaps the Ravens D played but I’m assuming it was a lot less.

This Ravens defense is excellent in the red zone, and we know the Chiefs this year have kicked a few too many field goals. That's a strength on a weakness to keep an eye on.

But really, if the focus issues are cleaned up, and we're now dealing with a team that's avoiding dumb penalties and drops, I'd expect the red zone offense to return to an elite level.

Perfect.

Yep. And if the Chiefs can make RB Lamar play QB, other than by his or the Ravens' choice, KC will win.

Guys, I'm sooo excited about this weekend.

Salute!

I get it. Every other franchise is jealous that you have Mahomes. All of them/us. He's him. Anyone who doesn't recognize that doesn't know what they're looking at. And I respect that Chiefs fans appreciate this moment for what it is. The comment of mine you quoted was less serious than it was breaking balls.

That said, I do think people here, elsewhere, and in the media focus too much on quaterbacks at the expense of anything else. It's the most important position in sports, but there are other dynamics at play that matter. If they didn't, then the Ravens wouldn't have won a Super Bowl with Dilfer and Flacco. If people here genuinely hold the belief that "we have Mahomes and you don't so nothing else matters," then I do disagree. It just stunts substantive conversation to collapse everything into QB A > QB B.

So I guess I do get triggered when people frame every single topic as "Mahomes vs. Lamar" when it's "Chiefs vs. Ravens." Especially when the "Mahomes vs. Lamar" turns into acting like the only player to ever have won a Heisman and two MVPs is some fraudulent also ran simply because he's not Patrick Mahomes.

Anyway, appreciate your explanations. I would like to stick around. This place is pretty unique. I just need to ignore the negative reputation comments telling me "Hope the entire female side of your family gets ass raped tonight." Onward and upward!

The Chiefs are getting better every week against progressively better defenses.

CIN - 373 - 1 TD - 6 FG
MIA - 409 - 2 TD - 4 FG
BUF - 361 (franchise record Y/P) - 3 TD - 2 FG

The Chiefs are about to explode on Baltimore.

They're locked in right now and getting better every week.

In -30 wind chill and on the road.

There is no stopping this freight train.

Why are you lying again? Those aren't Kelces numbers.

December my ass. The whole season was a scheduling clusterfuk. I have never seen a schedule quite like the Chiefs had this year. Maybe it's happened before, but it sure seems like the team got the short end of the stick week in, week out. The crazy ting is, we are a few dropped passes and a lame-brain lining up off-sides, from being 16-1.

47 snaps. Ravens offense had the ball for almost 38 minutes.

There's also talk Humphrey may return this weekend for the defense, this is meaningless. He's been bad and/or hurt most of this year.

You realize he didn't play because he's absolutely useless without the dynamic running ability. You do realize that's why he sat right? He's also "soft"

You'll see a shit ton of cover 0 as well. I guarantee it. He'll mix things up so much that pea brain won't know how to process it.

This. I’m tired of the talk and the back and forth, let’s just play the damned game and find out already.