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Mother****erJones 02-25-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13437328)
I think we could have got a single decent year behavior wise, if we had a coach with any balls that would have kept a foot in his ass. He has a major payday riding on the next year or two, so he also has incentive.

Ideally we kept him and kept him in line, but I didn't completelyhate that we dealt him. I just hate that we sold low.

Andy Reid has dealt with malcontents. If he can’t reach Marcus Peters, that’s on Peters.

BryanBusby 02-25-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13437341)
Or you can look at it from the angle of why did the Chiefs even draft him in the first place if they weren't prepared to deal with his well known character issues.

They apparently thought he was just conform with minimal effort applied.

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13437355)
Andy Reid has dealt with malcontents. If he can’t reach Marcus Peters, that’s on Peters.

That's on the Chiefs. They selected Peters, not the other way around.

Kyle DeLexus 02-25-2018 12:37 PM

So at this point can we get a new thread with the trade details if leaked? This thread is basically on repeat at this point but I can't help reading every comment just in case something was leaked.

If no new thread, I'll just check back in when the league year starts.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2018 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 13437332)
If you look at the circumstances surrounding the trade logically you see the Chiefs were sellers of a "must sell" cold commodity with limited suitors. The seller always gets less in that type of deal and the buyer is able to get the commodity at a discounted rate. Its just how it works.

Its going appear like the Chiefs got fleeced, and I have no doubt they did but they were desperate sellers and will sell it as a win win with addition by subtraction. And theres always the chance they hit home runs on the picks they do receive so who knows how it will all look in a couple years, but for now they dumped a talent that was a problem for them and any compensation is a bonus.

Exactly how I feel.

I think Brett likes to strike while the iron is hot. He must have felt like keeping Peters around for another season or two was too risky and could have resulted in them getting almost nothing for him.

I mean, the Chiefs just had to cut LJ. They got nothing for him. There was an injury involved there, obviously, but if the Chiefs felt a character issue was going to catastrophically undermine Peters' value in the future in a similar manner, they did the right thing.

Between Mahomes, Alex and now this you can clearly see they have a long-term outlook for the franchise.

Messier 02-25-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13437356)
They apparently thought he was just conform with minimal effort applied.


That's on the Chiefs. They selected Peters, not the other way around.

I don't think so. Some here are acting like Reid and the Chiefs are incompetent. That they're clueless how to handle "difficult" player situations. They're not. Hill was a sticky situation to enter into and it's working. The Chiefs AND the player are doing what they need to. It's always a two way street. It's not just on the Chiefs to handle a difficult player. The player has to take responsibility as well.

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13437354)
We're not in that bad of shape.

The defense is in absolutely terrible shape, maybe as bad as it's been in 15 years.

The Chiefs have three D-Lineman under contracts and their best player is coming off of another surgery.

They have 2 linebackers under contract in Eligwe and Ragland.

Hali is a goner, Houston's no where near worth his payday, Kpassongon is a huge question mark, as is Dee Ford.

Only a few cornerbacks are under contract in Fuller, Nelson and some scrubs.

Their safeties, beyond Berry, and no one know how long his body will hold up, are generally well below average in Sorensen, Murray and an average Ron Parker.

Beyond that, depth is needed everywhere.

Chief Roundup 02-25-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 13437348)
I'm slowly coming to grips with this. He better be a model citizen and teammate in LA. Or he can forget EVER getting a big pay day in this league. I mean, how does 30 teams say "No thanks" to a top 3 CB in the league? He's clearly viewed as a cancer almost on Kaepernick levels. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room last year, and see just how bad it clearly had to be.

Such a shame. I was his biggest fan. He was fun to watch. I'm going to miss him, but clearly the organization and his teammates are not. The fact there hasn't been a whole lot of love for him from his teammates on social media is pretty damned telling.

According to Garafolo the Chiefs reached out to the Colts and Browns, which both had interest. They lost interest when Peters agent told them he would not be willing to sign an extension with either team. Evidently Peters was only willing to sign an extension with teams in California since that is where the Chiefs went to trade him. I am sure the Chiefs were not willing to trade him to the Raiders or Chargers which left the Rams and 49ers.

NWTF 02-25-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 13437348)
I'm slowly coming to grips with this. He better be a model citizen and teammate in LA. Or he can forget EVER getting a big pay day in this league. I mean, how does 30 teams say "No thanks" to a top 3 CB in the league? He's clearly viewed as a cancer almost on Kaepernick levels. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room last year, and see just how bad it clearly had to be.

Such a shame. I was his biggest fan. He was fun to watch. I'm going to miss him, but clearly the organization and his teammates are not. The fact there hasn't been a whole lot of love for him from his teammates on social media is pretty damned telling.

Going by what others have said I believe it really came to a head after the Oakland game when he ditched the team and took the BART back with Lynch and Raider fans to Lynches place in Oakland, then returned to KC on his own all without notifying anyone on the Chiefs. Then the following week he had the meltdown @ the jets when he basically tried to eject himself from the game and they had to pull him out of the shower to return to the field. Then he had the confrontation in the tunnel with his mom afterward.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13437355)
Andy Reid has dealt with malcontents. If he can’t reach Marcus Peters, that’s on Peters.

No, that's on the Chiefs for drafting a well known malcontent and expecting him to change who he is as a person and as a competitor. We got exactly what was advertised when we drafted Marcus Peters. Advertised All Pro talent. Advertised nutcase. You can't just draft a leopard and expect it to change its spots. That's just dumb.

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13437356)
That's on the Chiefs. They selected Peters, not the other way around.

I completely disagree.

The Chiefs gave Marcus Peters an opportunity to earn 1st round money and a contract extension if he played well. He played well enough in 2015 and 2016 but his quality of play dropped off in 2017.

His play, in a vacuum, is absolutely no reason to trade him, especially without trading him for a premium return.

Marcus Peters bears responsibility for his actions on the field and off the field. Four Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalties, jawing with the fans, throwing a flag into the stands and quitting on his team have absolutely NOTHING to do with Andy Reid, his coaching staff, the front office and ownership.

His petulant behavior lies solely on the shoulders of Marcus Peters, The Chiefs Franchise and its players are not responsible for keeping Peters "in line".

That's on Marcus Peters.

Bewbies 02-25-2018 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 13437350)
Don't most teams think they can deal with character concerns? The Rams right now are saying, it'll be different with us.

We’ll know in a couple years if they are right.

Washington (college) and the Chiefs were both wrong in thinking it’d be different for them.

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13437375)
No, that's on the Chiefs for drafting a well known malcontent and expecting him to change who he is as a person and as a competitor. We got exactly what was advertised when we drafted Marcus Peters. Advertised All Pro talent. Advertised nutcase. You can't just draft a leopard and expect it to change its spots. That's just dumb.

Yes, you should expect a 22 year old man to become more mature over the course of three years.

Most people do, especially those presented an incredible opportunity to play a game for millions upon millions of dollars.

If said person stays the same (or in this case, regresses), that's on the person, not the owner, coaches, training staff, front office or other players.

Bewbies 02-25-2018 12:49 PM

Nelson and Ford are on the trade block? Where’d we learn this?

Mother****erJones 02-25-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13437356)
They apparently thought he was just conform with minimal effort applied.


That's on the Chiefs. They selected Peters, not the other way around.

Marcus wears his welcome out after a few years. He did it at Washington with the Huskies and now with Kansas City. I’m going to believe he’ll wear his welcome out anywhere. Even in Oakland, if they took him, he would’ve wore out Del Rio. Maybe Gruden could’ve gotten to him I don’t know. But if Reid can’t get to him, no one can but maybe his father. That’s the only spot he’s been on top of it (high school).

Mother****erJones 02-25-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13437381)
Nelson and Ford are on the trade block? Where’d we learn this?

KC tried to trade Nelson and they asked for Robert Quinn in the deal. That says a lot about Ford.


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