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Pablo 05-21-2023 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16952910)
Get used to it bc it’s coming to the NFL. The same type of fans that say nothing will ever come close to Michael will say Mahomes can never come close to the alter of Brady.

Jordan and Brady stans are one in the same for the most part.

Gary Cooper 05-21-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16952893)
Eh Jordan didn’t play great teams after his championship against the Lakers. LeBron played 7 finals against 2 dynasties (Warriors/Spurs).

I think most people would take the Warriors and Spurs great teams (especially the Warriors with KD) over the Jazz, Trailblazers, Suns and Supersonics.

Lebron had an easy path through the Eastern Conference from 2011-2018. Jordan had tougher competition to get to the Finals. I agree the Warriors were better than any team Jordan played in the Finals. So that argument cuts both ways.

staylor26 05-21-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16952893)
Eh Jordan didn’t play great teams after his championship against the Lakers. LeBron played 7 finals against 2 dynasties (Warriors/Spurs).

I think most people would take the Warriors and Spurs great teams (especially the Warriors with KD) over the Jazz, Trailblazers, Suns and Supersonics.

Tell me you're absolutely clueless without telling me you're absolutely clueless.

staylor26 05-21-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16952939)
Lebron had an easy path through the Eastern Conference from 2011-2018. Jordan had tougher competition to get to the Finals. I agree the Warriors were better than any team Jordan played in the Finals. So that argument cuts both ways.

Jordan was the Warriors team of his era. That's why that ****ing point is stupid.

staylor26 05-21-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16952930)
Jordan and Brady stans are one in the same for the most part.

Actually, Jordan is much more comparable to Mahomes and Brady to Lebron.

Anybody with a clue that has simply watched Jordan and Mahomes should know that they're witnessing the GOAT. I don't care about the stats, or the titles, they're just supporting arguments. It's all about the eye ball test.

tyecopeland 05-21-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16952901)

Why do you have to bash one player to make the other seem better instead of recognizing both are great?

That's what I wonder about every time kcc brings up Curry. Very few people (and none on this board) think Curry is better than LeBron. So why do kcc and Barry go so far out of their way to bash curry?

Tells me they are very insecure in their beliefs.

Pablo 05-21-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16952948)
Actually, Jordan is much more comparable to Mahomes and Brady to Lebron.

Anybody with a clue that has simply watched Jordan and Mahomes should know that they're witnessing the GOAT. I don't care about the stats, or the titles, they're just supporting arguments. It's all about the eye ball test.

I can understand that argument, but there's a huge contingent of # of rings, W/L in Finals stans that LOOOOOOOVE Jordan and Brady being on top of those impossible to climb mountains. And it's also rooted in OLDER SPORTS = BETTER SPORTS, MY CHILDHOOD DEFINING IDOLS v. yours bullshit peppered in there.

The eye ball test tells me when I'm watching Jimmy Butler in the playoffs I'm watching greatness. Don't get that with LeGM. Didn't watch enough Jordan to weigh in there. Just didn't really give a shit about basketball or baseball until teen years in the early 2000's or so. Just the Chiefs.

BigCatDaddy 05-21-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16952942)
Tell me you're absolutely clueless without telling me you're absolutely clueless.

No way he watched any of those.series and can come to that conclusion. Just reeruned

KC_Connection 05-21-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16952878)
I went to look at WARP just to see how bad ass the Joker is. I noticed MJ probably leads the league in WARP 13 years in a row if he doesn't retire until he is 38. Lebron who has a long steller career had 8 in a row. D-Rob may have gotten MJ in 93 though. He had a sick season that year.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16935316)
These are the only players who have led the league in VORP more than Nikola Jokic (3):

LeBron (9), MJ (9), Kareem (7), Erving (4), Bird (4)

LeBron and MJ had the the greatest and longest peaks of all time. Of course, LeBron has the longevity edge by a mile over him leading to only one conclusion about GOAT at this point.

KC_Connection 05-21-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16952930)
Jordan and Brady stans are one in the same for the most part.

They are (and both are horribly wrong in their contention that those players were the GOAT of their respective sports), but at least MJ was actually good at the sport he played. Brady was a game manager for most of his career.

KC_Connection 05-21-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16952948)
Actually, Jordan is much more comparable to Mahomes and Brady to Lebron.

Nah, it's clearly Brady/Jordan and LeBron/Mahomes. The media and a large segment of fans can't accept either one of the latter as GOAT and never will no matter what either one accomplishes individually.

KC_Connection 05-21-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16952953)
That's what I wonder about every time kcc brings up Curry. Very few people (and none on this board) think Curry is better than LeBron. So why do kcc and Barry go so far out of their way to bash curry?

Tells me they are very insecure in their beliefs.

Nah, it's more about hating the Warriors and what a disgrace of an organization they are. The Lakers aren't winning the title this year, but at least they got the job done in that regard. No guarantee anyone else would have.

staylor26 05-21-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16952968)
Nah, it's clearly Brady/Jordan and LeBron/Mahomes. The media and a large segment of fans can't accept either one of the latter as GOAT and never will no matter what either one accomplishes individually.

Of course you believe this, you're a delusional Lebron Stan.

You know how I know there's a difference between me and you?

I don't try to pretend that Lebron doesn't have the longevity argument like you do with Jordan having the peak argument.

Only a delusional Lebron Stan could possibly think that their peaks are the same.

KC_Connection 05-21-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16952960)
The eye ball test tells me when I'm watching Jimmy Butler in the playoffs I'm watching greatness. Don't get that with LeGM. .

Nothing against Jimmy (who is a tremendous player), but 35 year old LeBron completely destroyed him and the Heat three years ago in the Finals, FYI. LeBron averaged 30-12-9 on 59% shooting in 6 games in that one as by far the best player in the series. As a 35 year old in his 17th year. If that isn't greatness, I don't know what is.

staylor26 05-21-2023 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16952972)
35 year old LeBron completely destroyed Jimmy and the Heat three years ago in the Finals, FYI.

Jimmy also didn't have anybody like AD.


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