Elijah in a tough spot. Playing completely out of position and it's tough to say he might need to be benched in favor of Tharpe.

He makes great plays but way too erratic this season. Self has some thinking to do.

Obviously Self needs to go. Clean house.

This isn't one of Self's best teams.

Self's always had a good PG. There is no PG on this team that's worth starting. EJ is trying to make due but he's more of a spot up shooter than he is a ball handler.

Aaron Miles
Russell Robinson
Sherron Collins
Tyshawn Taylor (more of a combo guard but he could handle the ball - even though he was too erratic at times, he could also penetrate to the basket, something that's just not a strength of EJ)

This is an average Self team. Withey is just a monster defender and McLemore is the nastiest mofo we've had at KU in quite some time. Still a team that has as good a chance as any to win a NC this year.

Good point about TT. Tyshawn is a slashing combo guard. Hes no more of a pg than EJ. Hes just a better player. EJ gets the assists...similar or less TOs than TT. Difference is hes just not very good. Thr hes not a pg thing is just making excuses.

So, Naadir as the PG next year?

Who plays the 2 guard next year? Selden?

B-MAC :D

I wish.

You and I both.

I hope Frankamp is smooth enough to take the PG role at some point next year. I like the way Naadir has been playing lately, but I think he would be much better off the bench.

Ive heard Frankamp is a sleeper to play the point, he's more of a scorer but can still get to the lane on his own.

But I think its Tharpe's to lose - Self will always go with a junior over a freshman, especially at a position as important as PG. He stuck with TT through all his mistakes, and Tharpe could be a beast if he can figure things out.

I feel the same way.

I'm not sure Tharpe will ever have beast mode, if you will.
His defense has improved, as has his shooting. I feel the same way about Tharpe that I did with TT - right now. A wow move one trip down the court, with a total head scratching move next trip.

Also I would imagine like most freshman -- Connor will struggle defensively.

Self's teams ordered by KenPom Pythagorean ratings:

2008: .9859
2007: .9755
2010: .9683
2011: .9539
2012: .9485
2005: .9468
2013: .9467 (FYI, it was at about .9540 before yesterday's bad home loss)
2006: .9448
2004: .9342
2009: .9333

Calling 2013 an average Self team is quite accurate. Amazing that the "worst" team he had by this metric ended up winning the B12 in a conference with Blake Griffin and was still one of the top 10 teams in the nation.

He's going to have to.

I'm not sure but that we wouldn't be better by having Nadir be the pg full time and bringing Elijah of the bench to play the 2 when we go small.

I just don't think Tharpe is anywhere close to ready for that kind of responsibility.

He probably isn't, but I think he has the better skillset to become that guy.