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saphojunkie 02-25-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13437595)
Did he step out of the way on the 3rd and short in the Saturday game against the Chargers? Nope. Who made the tackle and almost had the strip to win the Titans game? Peters did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33lb...&feature=share

People - especially NFL fans - always underestimate the value of consistency. Coaches prefer guys they can count on vs. guys who may be shit but also may be incredible You can't scheme around "potentially might be shit, but also might be all-world. We'll see when it actually happens."

NFL schemes are based on everyone working in concert to serve the whole. Even guys like Favre, Roethlesberger, and Mahomes - guys who can make magic happen by improvisation - are coached to reign it in and play within the system.

Saying that Peters "stepped it up when it mattered" is disingenuous, because it presupposes that regular plays do not matter. If you "step up" on 2nd and four in the start of the third quarter, you might not need to step up on 3rd and short with 2 minutes left in the game.

All the plays matter to coaches.

dlphg9 02-25-2018 03:20 PM

Peters tackled. How many first downs or touchdowns did he allow from "not tackling"

chiefzilla1501 02-25-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13437553)
I think bringing up Peters situation with his mother is none of anyone's business. That's family drama and if people knew 1/10th of the shit these players do in their private lives...they would be appalled.

Kelce has cost KC in big time games...and has ACTUALLY been ejected. Peters never has...I'm on his side for throwing that flag. It was a previous BS call that cost KC points and ultimately the game...

Fans took a dump on him for sitting through the anthem...which was always a staged event paid for by the DOD that the owners used as an additional cash stream. It wasn't even a protest against the military...football fans are stupid and think they are veiling their racism....they probably arent introspective enough to even realize they are doing it.

There has been video of Brady screaming at his OC...but it's all good.

This whole thing reeks of Hunt wanting (threatening with an ultimatum) to force his players to stand during the anthem....while he rips off tax payers in new Mexico. The hypocrisy is rich...

A decent number of fans treated him like garbage all season long. Then the same fans wonder why he wasn't motivated to play for those fans and wants out of KC. You're absolutely right. He was too outspoken for the midwest. Protestors all over the league and we're the only fans getting into noticeable fights with our own star players.

Mother****erJones 02-25-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 13437613)
People - especially NFL fans - always underestimate the value of consistency. Coaches prefer guys they can count on vs. guys who may be shit but also may be incredible You can't scheme around "potentially might be shit, but also might be all-world. We'll see when it actually happens."

NFL schemes are based on everyone working in concert to serve the whole. Even guys like Favre, Roethlesberger, and Mahomes - guys who can make magic happen by improvisation - are coached to reign it in and play within the system.

Saying that Peters "stepped it up when it mattered" is disingenuous, because it presupposes that regular plays do not matter. If you "step up" on 2nd and four in the start of the third quarter, you might not need to step up on 3rd and short with 2 minutes left in the game.

All the plays matter to coaches.

He can tackle but chose not to. That’s the bigger issue. But that really isn’t that important if you listen to people. Didn’t matter for Deion Sanders. Corners are paid for their coverage.

mdchiefsfan 02-25-2018 03:24 PM

Hav they said what we got in return?

kgrund 02-25-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13437617)
Peters tackled. How many first downs or touchdowns did he allow from "not tackling"

Know one in 2 seconds just off the top of my head. Raiders game on Oakland on drive he got personal foul on Carr. Could have lit up Patterson on a low throw on 3rd down but chose not to even touch him. Things about MP can be defended to a degree, but his tackling last year was not one of those.

Mother****erJones 02-25-2018 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 13437627)
Know one in 2 seconds just off the top of my head. Raiders game on Oakland on drive he got personal foul on Carr. Could have lit up Patterson on a low throw on 3rd down but chose not to even touch him. Things about MP can be defended to a degree, but his tackling last year was not one of those.

I’m not trying to defend it honestly. It’s just not something I lose sleep over.

patteeu 02-25-2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 13437625)
Hav they said what we got in return?

No. Have a snickers. ;)

Someone will start a new thread when they do, I trust.

ghak99 02-25-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13437387)
Cancer is tricky. It plays you. Makes you think its gone.

There is a line in his "Oakland to KC" video that made me cringe when I heard it. I don't know how he meant it, but it felt like a slip to me.

The hustle was alive and well, it was just buried.

RunKC 02-25-2018 03:30 PM

If we somehow got Robert Quinn then we’d already be better than we were last year with Peters.

chiefzilla1501 02-25-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 13437609)
I've dealt with people like peters at work. I run a run a group of welders at a manufacturing facility. I had one guy who occasionally displayed his full potential as a high quality welder at a fast rate. When first hired, he was "hungry" to prove his worth and convinced me to bump him up in pay. After a while, it was obvious why a talented welder was unemployed in the first place. His life outside work (drugs and alcohol), directly affected his work ethics and just general attitude toward leadership and coworkers. Over time, we were forced to let him go for the better of the line as a whole.

Although an entirely different scenario, this kind of related to Peters and the Chiefs organization. While Peters excels at his skilled profession, his attitude is detrimental to the team as a whole.

I'm not sure the two necessarily go hand and hand. KC just expects their players to keep their mouths shut and the fans love the hell out of their polite lunch pail hard working players. I liked the Chiefs having someone on the defense that had a little attitude. You don't want your locker room filled with divas. But the NFL is a place where attitude can be an important part of the puzzle.

I can't remember the last time the Chiefs had a guy on the field who was this cocky. Goofballs, yes. Divas or outspoken shit-talkers... no. We've never had an OBJ, Richard Sherman, or a Von Miller type. And judging by our reaction to this, I don't know that they'd even be welcome.

MahiMike 02-25-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 13437422)
Confrontation with his mom? I could google it, but do you have any clues on where to find something on it? I hadn't heard about that.

It's in at least 20 posts in this thread.

MahiMike 02-25-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13437548)

Thanks. Now I'm in an endless loop.

MahiMike 02-25-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13437562)
:facepalm:

When it was needed, Peters made the tackle. He’s not ****ing Antoine Winfield

Anyone on this forum can find a dozen examples where that's not true and you know it.

Buckweath 02-25-2018 03:47 PM

How much is Robert Quinn worth in a trade in your opinion in terms of draft picks?


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