Allen's been a liability against the run since he got here. He was given the benefit of having nobody behind him that was better.

Good to hear Gun is pissed off beyond belief. I expect better in the next preseason game

Actually, it almost sounded like Gunther is despondent.

He's probably just tired, and overstressed. I don't blame the guy.

My problem is that Gunther has a history of getting down and contemplating giving up.

Being head coach comes with a shitload more responsibility and stress. Come to think of it, he was probablly on this board all those mornings at 3 am reading the rantings. So I blame all the long timers for making him depondent.

:D

Maybe its because we don't have intellegent defensive players on this team?
When I say intellegent, I mean defensive players that are not only smart, players that listen, and buy into his philosophies and schemes.

That's probably why he's losing it. Being a teacher ain't easy.

But according to most, that was the problem with Robinson. The players didn't like him, they didn't buy into his scheme.

If that's the case, is there ANY coach they'll listen to?

Holthus on Des Moines radio 8/16
 

Talked about Gunther on the rampage.

Morning practice, he tore Grigsby a new asshole for mistakes lining up.

Afternoon practice, he told Alphonso Hodge that he can find 100,000 people to do the job as good as he is, and that he fired the last player that played like that. Apparently Hodge talked back to him at that point, which can't be good for your lifespan.

Coaches that win a superbowl with one team have never won one with the next team.

Vermeil is frustrated with all the man hours missed. Is tired of guys sitting out for every little nick.

Some scrub from ISU quit the team.

Talked a bit about Bell, but didn't say anything that hasn't been in the other threads. Practicing in pads, but not hitting.

You could say that at least he has balls.

I think Gunther is starting to lose it again.

Kevin DeRonde left camp saying he wanted to retire and go back to school.

Gun has been furious with Boomer several times in camp about lining up wrong, missed gap assignments....... welcome to the NFL rookie ........ :D

Allen has gotten a taste of Gun from sloppy play.......

I would say that Gun is try'n to light a fire into them........

while the D is getting grilled the O is getting coddled. The D should really be wanting to rip some heads off

Well, if Vermeil set the tone this offseason with guys sitting out with every little energy by giving all the offensive "stars" half day practices, lots of days off, etc, etc...

Hope he lit a fire under Hodge, we could really use him to step up.

We could end up seeing a defensive coach get tattoed by one of his def. players. Now, wouldn't that make the news.

I"m glad to see the defense start feeling the pressure. They've stunk for too long. Gun wants accountabilty.