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OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 5558468)
The whole tenor of this mock is being diminished by the constant douchbaggery.

Yep.

I've told the Coalition of the Butthurt that they were more than welcome to use all the information I spent my time getting to make their own mocks, but no one seems to be up to the challenge - they'd rather take their potshots here.

The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5558472)
I looked at the article date, not the actual signing date. Whoops.

He actually signed Monday night, and Hamas made his pick on Tuesday morning.

Hell, I missed it, I could easily see where someone would miss that. I know I'm not scouring the FA market before I make a pick.

It's cool man. I only pay attention to the major signings when I'm drafting for my team (****ing Broncos).

I'm not going to give you shit because this is a lot of work and I'm not willing to put in the time or the effort.

The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558483)
Ok hamas I agree with wells then if you want an alla earth wind and fire like giants.


but sanchez for the chiefs pick who you want to that's your right but you now have 3 cappable qbs and same old d why?

3 capable QBs? So far I see Cassell and Sanchez. That's two. I hope you don't mean Thigpen.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558483)
Ok hamas I agree with wells then if you want an alla earth wind and fire like giants.


but sanchez for the chiefs pick who you want to that's your right but you now have 3 cappable qbs and same old d why?

Because BJ Raji is a scary ass proposition at 3, and if you read my explanation, you'd see that I'm not sold on Matt Cassel. I'm not betting the future of the Chiefs on Cassel if I'm in charge, sorry.

If you don't have a franchise QB, you take one. I don't see Cassel as a franchise QB, so I'm taking Sanchez because he is one. If Cassel flops, we're a hell of a lot more ****ed for the future than people realize, because next year's QB class is flat awful.

I'm sorry if forward thinking is offensive to people in the mock, but I realize that this Chiefs team isn't going anywhere next year, and if you want to get a franchise QB, now is the time. We can build our D with high picks next year when there is phenomenal talent at the top.

I didn't make the pick to win a popularity contest. If I did, I would have taken Curry.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558476)
you are also forgetting I drafted jerod Mayo as well. When I picked both you guys on here said they were bad picks. but I don't know as much as all of you that's fair.

Really?

Here's the thread. You picked Mayo in Post #376.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...07+mock&page=3

The ONLY person that commented on the pick was Direckshun, and he said it was a good pick.

If you really want to piss me off, keep claiming that I said things I didn't actually say.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5558486)
It's cool man. I only pay attention to the major signings when I'm drafting for my team (****ing Broncos).

I'm not going to give you shit because this is a lot of work and I'm not willing to put in the time or the effort.

Actually, I'd prefer you call me out when I **** up. I don't want, nor expect any special treatment just because I set up and run this thing.

chiefscafan 03-05-2009 05:42 PM

but hamas not to be a jerk but how do you know cassel isn't and sanchez is a franchise qb? alot of people thought Leaf was a franchise qb too. I see major limitations to his game I think he's gonna have problems adjusting to the speed of the nfl. Cassel has done it plus the guy in charge drafted him and watched him develop you have to trust in pioli at this time.

I just don't agree with the majority on here that Sanchez is a franchise qb

The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5558494)
Really?

Here's the thread. You picked Mayo in Post #376.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...07+mock&page=3

The ONLY person that commented on the pick was Direckshun, and he said it was a good pick.

If you really want to piss me off, keep claiming that I said things I didn't actually say.

Damnt....I was just about to post this. LMAO

The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5558491)
Because BJ Raji is a scary ass proposition at 3, and if you read my explanation, you'd see that I'm not sold on Matt Cassel. I'm not betting the future of the Chiefs on Cassel if I'm in charge, sorry.

If you don't have a franchise QB, you take one. I don't see Cassel as a franchise QB, so I'm taking Sanchez because he is one. If Cassel flops, we're a hell of a lot more ****ed for the future than people realize, because next year's QB class is flat awful.

I'm sorry if forward thinking is offensive to people in the mock, but I realize that this Chiefs team isn't going anywhere next year, and if you want to get a franchise QB, now is the time. We can build our D with high picks next year when there is phenomenal talent at the top.

I didn't make the pick to win a popularity contest. If I did, I would have taken Curry.

Plus....as you've mentioned. Cassell still hasn't inked a long term contract as of yet. So without Sanchez in the mix.....we're going into next year with a QB on a one year $14 million dollar deal. Drafting Sanchez allows us to do a number of things with Cassell.

chiefscafan 03-05-2009 05:45 PM

ok OTW I just remember people laughing about the chris JOhnson pick I do my homework guys I know alot about guys in the draft every year.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558504)
but hamas not to be a jerk but how do you know cassel isn't and sanchez is a franchise qb? alot of people thought Leaf was a franchise qb too. I see major limitations to his game I think he's gonna have problems adjusting to the speed of the nfl. Cassel has done it plus the guy in charge drafted him and watched him develop you have to trust in pioli at this time.

I just don't agree with the majority on here that Sanchez is a franchise qb

That's your opinion.

I'm also entitled to have one.

I'm also not required to put blind faith in Pioli when, quite frankly, his draft record sucks over the last 4 years, and their FA signings lately have been mighty underwhelming.

They hit on Moss and Welker. Yay.

chiefscafan 03-05-2009 05:46 PM

pestillencia


by the way for a history lesson I drafted chris Johnson for kr pr and hopefully to challenge as a running back to dangelo williams.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5558508)
Plus....as you've mentioned. Cassell still hasn't inked a long term contract as of yet. So without Sanchez in the mix.....we're going into next year with a QB on a one year $14 million dollar deal. Drafting Sanchez allows us to do a number of things with Cassell.

Well, not only that, but we own Cassel's rights for two years due to the expiration of the CBA. Therefore, we can put a 1st round tender on him, and if anyone signs him and we elect not to match, we get higher compensation than what we paid for him.

Plus, we gave Sanchez a year of time to learn.

If the downside of that is missing out on BJ Raji at 3 or Sintim/Connor Barwin at 34...well, that's worth it to me.

The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558509)
ok OTW I just remember people laughing about the chris JOhnson pick I do my homework guys I know alot about guys in the draft every year.

Here you go.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4639931)
Directly from chiefscafan's PM:

the panthers select with their pick RB Chris Johnson from eastern carolina

reason:

compliment to deangelo williams to form a lightning quick one two punch. Also with that 4.24 speed a danger on kick off and punt returns

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4639934)
Johnson and Williams are almost exactly the same thing.....now they have 2 undersized backs.

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4639958)
Chris Johnson to the Panthers......really makes no sense to me. But oh well....


chiefscafan 03-05-2009 05:50 PM

ok but hamas you sound like the fan that won't ever be happy. This is reguarded as one of the brilliant minds in the NFL. We aren't talking about Carl Petterson here. I question the haley hiring a little and the non activity in free agency is bugging me but I think we are gonna be alot better than some people are giving us credit for. IF its blind faith then label me a pioli follower I 'm willing to give him a chance why will none of the rest of u do this I'm just currious.


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