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Rasputin 08-19-2012 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832084)
It was poor enough that he's no longer a RB.

Game, set, match.

Now we get to see him fail as a WR. A position he already failed at as a rookie.

Well he sure has the coaches fooled doesn't he? He is going have a bunch of LBs & DBs fooled too when he makes assclowns out of them. Yep Dex is going have the league fooled just how good he is, but not Clay that is for damn sure.

BossChief 08-19-2012 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8832084)
It was poor enough that he's no longer a RB.

Game, set, match.

Now we get to see him fail as a WR. A position he already failed at as a rookie.

He isn't a running back because the team needed to replace Jones and Battle.

That added with the need to fill the slot receiver role and DMCs hard work towards earning that role have us where we currently are.

With DMC as the full time slot receiver...at least until if/when Wylie takes the job from him.

crazycoffey 08-19-2012 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8831692)
Were we really all that prepared, or were we playing a shitty Arizona team?

The starting D got gashed tonight.

We talked about this at the game. I agree the d got gashed, but I also don't think the d playcalling was anything more than vanilla either. No blitz packages. Just safe regular calls. Don't know if that was planned or if I missed something.

Agree Baldwin was open almost all night, stanzi sucks, poe was on the ground too many times, casshole plays too safe, team didn't seem prepared, and Kellen Clemens isn't much worse than casshole.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2012 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8832086)
Well he sure has the coaches fooled doesn't he? He is going have a bunch of LBs & DBs fooled too when he makes assclowns out of them. Yep Dex is going have the league fooled just how good he is, but not Clay that is for damn sure.

Dex won't have 400 yards this year.

#4 WR = shit

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2012 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8832075)
Are you really? Cool man, congrats!

:thumb:

Somehow, I think you'll like it better than Ohio (plus, IIRC, you'll be close to your son).

Thanks, and yes, I'm moving to be closer to him.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2012 02:43 AM

Last thought before bed.

http://i.imgur.com/kdSU4.jpg

bevischief 08-19-2012 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8831902)
Positives:

Charles looked like he trusts the knee and that he hasnt lost his explosion, vision or strength in his runs. Definitely a good sign.

Cassel looked like he is trying to take the next step in his development (sad that at 30 that is even an issue) by trying to push the ball more on intermediate routes. His arm looks visibly stronger and his accuracy seems to have improved...as does his poise, albeit not by leaps and bounds.

Playcalling is much better on offense. I know, I know preseason blah blah...but the plays are in on time and most of the time have been effective.

Hillis looks to be ready for another 2010 year...dude reminds me of a more talented Mike Alstott...hopefully he continues to secure the ball and isnt careless with it in crucial situations like he was in 2010...if he does, our running backs will be in beast mode.

Jerrell Powe looks to be a guy that should probably get some sub package work and is probably deserving of more than that. He is seemingly disruptive on a lot of plays he is in for and if this team is gonna blitz more and use man coverage as much as they are, he can be an asset in a "Jay Ratliff" type role as a penetrating nose when we blitz.

Allen looked to be in beast mode and should be promoted immediately to starting left guard.

Dexter McCluster is kicking big time ass out there and is arguably our best receiver (until Bowe gets his back into the swing of things. He is getting consistent separation and is catching almost everything thrown his way. If he keeps it up, he will provide a valuable weapon to this offense.

Kevin Boss is looking like a stud pickup more and more aqnd should allow our offense to use he and Moeaki similarly to how Gronk/Hernandez get used in NE. Really good value signing.

Dontari Poe is already starting to flash, if you look close enough. He is splitting doubles and beating blocks regularly and had a couple pressures tonight. They need to put him at the3 nose and keep him there...LIKE THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO.

The negatives:

Stanzi looked like hot garbage. No redeemable features were on display tonight. Just a poor showing.

Dorsey/Torbino/Jackson all looked like ass. Not sure what was up tonight with them, but they all looked soft.

The whole secondary...even Berry looked bad tonight and whats really bad is that the Rams have one of the weakest receiving cores in the league and we couldnt even slow them down.

Did I mention Stanzi?...biggest opportunity of his life to show something and he really played poorly.

Bailey...where the **** was he?

Albert has a rough game, too...gave up a couple pressures and a sack iirc. Its a shame...I figured he would be looking very impressive this time of the year in a contract year.

Baldwin...another of "my guys" that underachieved tonight...although I think a large part of that is because he is a guy you just need to throw a few passes a game to him and let him go get it and these guys arent doing that for the kid....they need to show some confidence in him by making it a point to do that.

I hope Romeo turns it up a couple notches in practice this week to get the starters some good work before next week...thats the game that these guys need to be almost ready to line up in a regular season game and if we look out of rythem...that will almost undoubtedly carryover into the regular season.

This team has a lot of work to do to start to realize their potential and if we dont get it going pretty fast, Clay is gonna end up looking like a genius at the end of the year.

I agree.

Rasputin 08-19-2012 03:42 AM

We are going see the starters into the second have against Seattle & I think we are going have a much better outing then. The regular starters should be set to go & D Bowe show is back. I don't expect a lot out of him rest of the preseason just going be nice he is back with the team atcivities.

jspchief 08-19-2012 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832083)
Let me also say that when you have "bs dumpoff" options like Hillis, Charles and Dexter....I have no problem with Cassel checking down as long as he is throwing passes to the receivers and spreading the ball around.

He does that and those "bs dumpoffs" will be highly effective.

This is true. The problems is, based on what we've seen from Cassel in his first 3 years, the short passing game is 95% of his game. It's not like he throws short when the defense is spread and goes deep when the D plays up. He just throws short high percentage passes almost exclusively. It stunts the entire offense.


As for McSpinmove, Clay won't have to worry about him for much longer. Every defense in the league is going to know that Matty Pro Bowl does nothing but throw short crossing patterns to him and its only a matter of time before a safety or LB finds Dex stretched out for an off target throw. He's going to get blown up.

DBOSHO 08-19-2012 04:24 AM

On a semi sidenote, I love the whitr jerseys

lcarus 08-19-2012 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8831951)
I don't think we'll know where Cassel is until five or six games ino the regular season. The early returns look promising but that could change quickly.

I think the biggest problem with this team is just going to be consistency honestly. It's gonna be a rollercoaster season I think.

milkman 08-19-2012 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8832087)
He isn't a running back because the team needed to replace Jones and Battle.

That added with the need to fill the slot receiver role and DMCs hard work towards earning that role have us where we currently are.

With DMC as the full time slot receiver...at least until if/when Wylie takes the job from him.

You don't move a RB that you believe is a productive RB to WR.

That 4.5 YPC is a mirage.

Handoffs on passing downs, when the defense doesn't care if the RB gains 6 or 7 yards.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-19-2012 06:41 AM

Typical Planet overreaction. Happened one way after Game 1, but the pendulum has swung the other way and it's panic time.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-19-2012 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8831374)
I think the AFC West is safe in confirming it's "worst division in football" status. Yet, once again.

Holy crap your pro takes are worse than your college ones ROFL

Ace Gunner 08-19-2012 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8832116)
You don't move a RB that you believe is a productive RB to WR.

That 4.5 YPC is a mirage.

Handoffs on passing downs, when the defense doesn't care if the RB gains 6 or 7 yards.

114 carries is a mirage to you?


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