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Exoter175 03-14-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9498069)
You need two ILBs who can cover nowadays.

Would prefer Dansby and the selection of Ogletree(unrealistic, I know)/Bostic.

No you don't, you need 1 cover ILB and a nickel corner to sub package. We have both.

You DEFINITELY need a solid ILB tackler though, and both maualuga and dansby bring that to the table. Dansby is better, Maualuga is younger and more upside.

Its a coin toss right now, but I'll take the youth.

O.city 03-14-2013 01:43 PM

Jacksonville liking Smith is gravy for us. We need to have Teicher ramp that shit up or something.

mcaj22 03-14-2013 01:43 PM

they whiffed on Phillip Wheeler at ILB so they definitely want a guy who can cover, because Wheeler is definitely no thumper

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-14-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498081)
If we're drafting a QB high next year it's because either Alex Smith or Chase Daniel sucks. If they're average.....we won't see a QB in here for 2-3 years.

I agree, but John Dorsey shouldn't be playing checkers. He needs to realize the limitations implicit within Alex Smith's game and have a contingency plan. He should also be a good enough student of history to know that a lack of a contingency plan is why he's currently working in Kansas City instead of another city.

Sorter 03-14-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9498083)
How does he have better weapons? All he has here is Bowe and Charles. That's not exactly a lot better than Crabtree, Davis and Gore.

And Manningham, Hunter, Williams, Moss and James.

Some of those are stretches but as far as talent goes, they rape us.

Bowe
Charles
...

O.city 03-14-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9498090)
No you don't, you need 1 cover ILB and a nickel corner to sub package. We have both.

You DEFINITELY need a solid ILB tackler though, and both maualuga and dansby bring that to the table. Dansby is better, Maualuga is younger and more upside.

Its a coin toss right now, but I'll take the youth.

Yeah, you do. People are going to throw on us when we are in base package if we have another Belcher in there.

He doesn't have to be Urlacher, but he has to be able to flip his hips and run a little.

Frankie 03-14-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9497897)
I'm not gonna read this whole thread. But this is at best a meh signing for me. Please tell me why I should be excited about DB who has 5 INTs in 4 years.

This request was serious. If explained in previous posts in this long thread, can someone post a cliff note version of the positive opinions?

Sorter 03-14-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9498090)
No you don't, you need 1 cover ILB and a nickel corner to sub package. We have both.

You DEFINITELY need a solid ILB tackler though, and both maualuga and dansby bring that to the table. Dansby is better, Maualuga is younger and more upside.

Its a coin toss right now, but I'll take the youth.

Having 2 ILBs who can cover creates flexibility out of base fronts and in your subs.

I mean, I'm sure the 49ers hate having 2 ILBs who can play in coverage. Just hate it.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498067)
Frankly, I dont give a damn about having a "thumper" there. In todays game I'll take a guy who might be a little light in the pants that can cover.

I don't think Maualuga is that.

Seriously, Bernard Pollard as Ted Backer.

Right attitude, strong and would be quite good in coverage...for a linebacker.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9498040)
You could sub the name out for Clausen or Sanchez or any other QB the Chiefs had a shot at getting. It's not about the player. It's about the philosophy. But that's been completely lost around here.

No, it hasn't.

I said this same exact thing last night: You cannot ask the fans of a franchise that's had ONE winning season in the last six and no playoff wins in 20 years to "Be patient while we develop a guy we hope can become a playoff and possible Super Bowl winner".

You can't. You'd have 40,000+ no shows each week (just like the 80's and the latter half of 2012), you'd have a pissed off an apathetic fan base (you know, the people that actually BUY tickets and attend the games) and you'd run the risk of losing your base for years on end.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Clark Hunt instructed Reid and Dorsey to do whatever it takes this offseason to put a respectable football team on the field in 2013 and build towards the future in 2014.

Every move they've made confirms it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-14-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9498103)
This request was serious. If explained in previous posts in this long thread, can someone post a cliff note version of the positive opinions?

He's a height-weight-speed guy.

Deberg_1990 03-14-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498081)
If we're drafting a QB high next year it's because either Alex Smith or Chase Daniel sucks. If they're average.....we won't see a QB in here for 2-3 years.

Now your thinking the Piioli way.

I dont believe for one second these guys are like that.

Exoter175 03-14-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498085)
Dude....they have nothing in their court. They have Tavaris Jackson as their starting QB and a bunch of teams that are interested in Geno Smith. Yeah they could wait.....and then have nothing.

Every team likes Geno Smith, just like every team liked Andrew Luck and RG3.

The difference is, there isn't TWO solid starters to trade up for, there isn't a guaranteed starter to trade up for at all.

They showed their hand by releasing Fitz, but my point about having the ball in their court, is that KC CANNOT command the trade value this year to get into the first spot, that the Redskins had to pay last year for the 2nd.

You're talking 1st and 2nd, or 1st and 3rd plus a mid rounder next year at best.

Which is great for us, we'd like that.

If we can work out at 1 and 2, plus a 3 next year, we negate the Smith trade and all we do is move back 7 spots to draft a tackle we would have reached on with the first. We lose nothing and gain an Alex Smith.

mcaj22 03-14-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9498097)
And Manningham, Hunter, Williams, Moss and James.

Some of those are stretches but as far as talent goes, they rape us.

Bowe
Charles
...

its about dare i say even now

its not a HUGE drop off anymore like it was with Bowe, Charles than a bunch of unproven Scooter homer draft picks that have done dog shit in the NFL

It's now Bowe, Charles, Fasano, Avery... role players with production (receptions, yardage, touchdowns) between them. That's like their versions of Delanie Walker, Manningham, Josh Morgan, etc.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498059)
The guy isn't Cassel.

He's never been as successful as 2010 or 2008 Matt Cassel.

He throws the ball down the field less than Cassel.

He takes a lot of necessary sacks.

Facts.


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