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Sweet Daddy Hate 06-18-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9760281)
I amazed how little credit you fools give to coaching.

We had the worst coach in the NFL last year by a mile. Maybe 10 miles.

We just picked up a top 10 coach.

Basically every person in the NFL media thinks the Chiefs are talented.

We sent 6 people to Hawaii granted a few were questionable but still, somebody thought we had that level of talent.

Lets be a doom and gloom, that's way better.

Love,

2009

keg in kc 06-18-2013 09:50 PM

Who says we don't give credit to coaching. I'm sure Reid can coach Alex Smith to the point where Smith can ride the talent on the rest of the team to 8 or 9 wins. Just as I'm also sure Reid could have coached virtually any other QB to that point.

Discuss Thrower 06-18-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9760281)
I amazed how little credit you fools give to coaching.

We had the worst coach in the NFL last year by a mile. Maybe 10 miles.

We just picked up a top 10 coach.

Basically every person in the NFL media thinks the Chiefs are talented.

We sent 6 people to Hawaii granted a few were questionable but still, somebody thought we had that level of talent.

Lets be a doom and gloom, that's way better.

Reid is NOT a Top 10 coach. This isn't 2004.

Beef Supreme 06-18-2013 10:21 PM

Let us have our optimistic off-season. We're Chiefs fans. It's all we have.

milkman 06-19-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9758820)

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9759125)
Your facts include that this QB has been in the top 10 the last two years in passer rating?

LMAO ... wow.. do you even think? at all?

Stats mean jack, and passer rating is the most useless stat of all.

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9759209)
Lol

I'm the furthest thing from a dumbass.

Everyone is just one mistake away from dumbass.

Mav 06-19-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9761437)
Who says we don't give credit to coaching. I'm sure Reid can coach Alex Smith to the point where Smith can ride the talent on the rest of the team to 8 or 9 wins. Just as I'm also sure Reid could have coached virtually any other QB to that point.

Bullshit. I heard this argument before. Any qb could of done what alex smith did the past two years under harbaugh. that's a cop out. That is a convenient excuse for people who cling to every single reason to not give alex smith the credit he rightfully EARNED. Not deserves. He EARNED IT.
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9762209)
Stats mean jack, and passer rating is the most useless stat of all.


Everyone is just one mistake away from dumbass.

Correct. The only stats that matter, are wins, and in the past two years, the only qbs with a higher winning percentage than alex smith, were aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. The concept, is team, the chiefs have built an entire team, and Alex is just a part of it. Yes, ideally, you would want a franchise qb, that can carry you if you need it. But, if you cant have that, the least you can have is a solid team, which the Chiefs have built.

mcaj22 06-19-2013 11:44 AM

oh cool we built a solid team with no franchise QB, in the off chance the once every 20 years Trent Dilfer Scenario happens again, we should be first in line to catch that lightning in a bottle and have our team carry our game manager QB passed all the franchise QBs in the playoffs.

Joy

Mav 06-19-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9762447)
oh cool we built a solid team with no franchise QB, in the off chance the once every 20 years Trent Dilfer Scenario happens again, we should be first in line to catch that lightning in a bottle and have our team carry our game manager QB passed all the franchise QBs in the playoffs.

Joy

And again. Joe Flacco, 28 tds, and 3800 yards. Those are franchise qb numbers? What won in the end for The ravens last year? Hmmmm? Their defense and special teams won that game for them.

The blueprint for the Chiefs, is very similar to the ravens.

When was the last time that Tom Brady won a super bowl? And in the year that the packers won the super bowl, in case you have forgotten, it was their DEFENSE that carried them to the title. Not THEIR OFFENSE. To win it all, which should be the goal, you have to have a COMPLETE TEAM. Alex Smith, is NOT trent dilfer bad, not even close.

keg in kc 06-19-2013 01:08 PM

Alex Smith is a game manager who needs a strong running game and a top defense to eek out close wins. Which is fine, except for the whole "traded two seconds" part. I'm sure he'll do fine in his role. I'm also sure a half a dozen other veterans would have done fine in that role, at no cost and without crippling the team in top half of the draft for two years.

Love the way people keep devaluing Joe Flacco and his 1100 yard, 11 TD/0 INT playoff performance last year. He throws for 285 yards and 3 TD a game, the Ravens score 24, 38, 28 and 34 points, but their title's not about anything he did. Nah, that wasn't an all-time playoff run for a QB. It was all defense carrying him!

LMAO

mcaj22 06-19-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9762468)
And again. Joe Flacco, 28 tds, and 3800 yards. Those are franchise qb numbers? What won in the end for The ravens last year? Hmmmm? Their defense and special teams won that game for them.

The blueprint for the Chiefs, is very similar to the ravens.

When was the last time that Tom Brady won a super bowl? And in the year that the packers won the super bowl, in case you have forgotten, it was their DEFENSE that carried them to the title. Not THEIR OFFENSE. To win it all, which should be the goal, you have to have a COMPLETE TEAM. Alex Smith, is NOT trent dilfer bad, not even close.

weren't Joe Flacco's playoff numbers last year godly/elite? Where he got on a hot streak in the WC, Division and Championship rounds and absolutely CARRIED his team with his arm? Weren't his passing numbers something crazy, he had a like 8 touchdowns and no picks.

He carried that team to the Super Bowl. Everyone knows this.

BigMeatballDave 06-19-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9762620)

Love the way people keep devaluing Joe Flacco and his 1100 yard, 11 TD/0 INT playoff performance last year. He throws for 285 yards and 3 TD a game, the Ravens score 24, 38, 28 and 34 points, but their title's not about anything he did. Nah, that wasn't an all-time playoff run for a QB. It was all defense carrying him!

LMAO

Wait till Hootie sees this. LOL

If not for a dropped pass vs NE the yr before, he'd have 2 Lombardi's.

Marcellus 06-19-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9761546)
Reid is NOT a Top 10 coach. This isn't 2004.

This topic has already been debated in an entire thread devoted to the subject and it was determined by a vast majority opinion on CP that yes indeed Reid is a top 10 coach.

Feel free to have your own opinion though.

-King- 06-19-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9761546)
Reid is NOT a Top 10 coach. This isn't 2004.

Name 10 coaches better than him. Go.

Dave Lane 06-19-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9762683)
This topic has already been debated in an entire thread devoted to the subject and it was determined by a vast majority opinion on CP that yes indeed Reid is a top 10 coach.

Feel free to have your own opinion though.

I think its way early to determine where he is today. He certainly has the potential to be top 10 and has been in the past. We will see.

Sorter 06-19-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9762706)
Name 10 coaches better than him. Go.

One could potentially argue this

Harbaugh
Harbaugh
Payton
Belichick
Coughlin
McCarthy
Tomlin
Shanarat
Carroll
Fisher

Now, I'm not sure that I'd put Fisher above Reid. Additionally, I'd rather group them into tiers rather than a 1-10 list.


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