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saphojunkie 01-08-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 10355986)
Good post, except for the most important stat of all, winning the game.
Some think that is cruel, but that is all that really matters.
2-6 after the bye, with the wins coming against the Raiders and Redskins.

It's not all that really matters. It's not cruel, it's just wrong.

Neither stats nor W/L can be looked at in a vacuum. If Peyton Manning throws an 80 yard touchdown in a blowout win, but the pass was a four yard screen that Demariyus took to the house... I'm not giving that pass more credit than Alex's bomb to Avery in a loss. I'm just not.

Having said that, Alex threw 23 TD in the regular season, but five of them came in one game. There were five games where he failed to throw a single touchdown, despite winning the game. I'm not giving him more credit in those wins than I am for Andrew Luck's 326 yd, 4 TD, 0 INT loss to the Bengals.

BigRedChief 01-08-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10355993)
He will and that's fine. He's earned it whatever the going rate is.

We have no choice. We only have a 2-3 year window and then its closed. Flowers/Hali/DJ/Charles will be on the decline. We cant draft and develop.
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10355993)
It's why guys like Romo, Cutler, Flacco and eventually Smith get big money despite a lot of fans objections.

Smith is going to get $100 million contract. $52-55 million guaranteed. $17-$18 million per year.

It's not right, its way too much money but thats the going rate.

What we need to do is front load the contract like the Bears did with Cutler so you can get out of it after 3-4 years if Smith goes south.

mcaj22 01-08-2014 05:31 PM

the team around him will go south before Smith does.

Jakemall 01-08-2014 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10356022)
I saw at #11 jersey at Dick's Sporting Goods yesterday.

Smelled it's retail freshness.

Fondled it's soft folds.

It called to me.

After everything this season..


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BigMeatballDave 01-08-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10356074)
the team around him will go south before Smith does.

Depends on how well Dorsey can draft.

Jakemall 01-08-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10356078)
Depends on how well Dorsey can draft.

This is why he gets paid.

saphojunkie 01-08-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10356078)
Depends on how well Dorsey can draft.

It would be nice if a few of LAST year's draft picks also made a contribution.

By far our best draft pick has been Alex Smith.

Fisher
Kelce
Nico Johnson
Sanders Commings
Kush
Catapano

We really need at least two of those guys to pan out.

WhiteWhale 01-08-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10356026)
And without Romo, they'd be a 3-4 win team every year. He's had one season in the last 5 where the defense was in the top HALF of the league in scoring defense.

OH NOES! HE THROWS INT'S!

Yeah, that happens when you know your defense can't stop anyone and you have to score 30 points to even have a chance.

You should stick to Twitter updates, because your Football IQ is low.

Without Romo they'd be a 3-4 win team?

You say this regardless of the QB who would be playing in place of him... what a weird statement.

Jakemall 01-08-2014 05:51 PM

The more I think about this, the more I think Alex will get hefty contract, but the actual guaranteed money will be toned down to the numbers I said before.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10356112)
Without Romo they'd be a 3-4 win team?

You say this regardless of the QB who would be playing in place of him... what a weird statement.

Feel free to give a list of available QB's that you think could win 5+ games without any help from the defense.

I'll wait.

O.city 01-08-2014 06:05 PM

Using wins and losses a a stat for or against a qb isn't really justifiable in the nfl. Smith was a better qb in the second half of the season, and we lost more games.

It's not usually ok to say on cp, because it was said for cassel, but maybe smith just does need a few more weapons. Obviously he's not ever gonna be manning, but I don't see any reason not to put him in the same class as Eli or flacco.

Maybe Djln and urban Meyer were right. Once he becomes ultimately confident and comfortable in a system, he'll take off. The more reps he got in Reid's offense, the better he got.

Hell, maybe it's a perfect marriage. Maybe he is e perfect fit for Reid's offense and Reid is he perfect coach for smith.

If that's the case, I don't see any reason to not sign him to a deal, while we continue to look for the elite guy. We've seen smith is good enough to win when it counts, and actually seems to be at his best when the chips are down. I'm pretty excited about him going forward at this point.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2014 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10356134)
Using wins and losses a a stat for or against a qb isn't really justifiable in the nfl. Smith was a better qb in the second half of the season, and we lost more games.

It's not usually ok to say on cp, because it was said for cassel, but maybe smith just does need a few more weapons. Obviously he's not ever gonna be manning, but I don't see any reason not to put him in the same class as Eli or flacco.

Maybe Djln and urban Meyer were right. Once he becomes ultimately confident and comfortable in a system, he'll take off. The more reps he got in Reid's offense, the better he got.

Hell, maybe it's a perfect marriage. Maybe he is e perfect fit for Reid's offense and Reid is he perfect coach for smith.

If that's the case, I don't see any reason to not sign him to a deal, while we continue to look for the elite guy. We've seen smith is good enough to win when it counts, and actually seems to be at his best when the chips are down. I'm pretty excited about him going forward at this point.

I think this is why people are against a long extension.

This roster has a ton of holes, and not a lot of money under the cap. Do you see them taking a QB in R1 or R2 any time soon if AS is extended?

I don't.

O.city 01-08-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10356145)
I think this is why people are against a long extension.

This roster has a ton of holes, and not a lot of money under the cap. Do you see them taking a QB in R1 or R2 any time soon if AS is extended?

I don't.

I'm not sure the cap situation we will be in by march. I'd say it will look different by then, but I agree.

I really couldn't answer that yet tho. Based in their history of drafting, probably not. But, that said, if smith is what I said he could be, I really wouldn't care short term. I guess it will depend on the contract. If it's prohibitive to us adding more talent, it gets muddy.

O.city 01-08-2014 06:15 PM

Something we have seen some of, but not a lot of is player development with this franchise. We do have holes, but you're always gonna have holes. We've gotta start developing more of these under the radar guys.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10356155)
Something we have seen some of, but not a lot of is player development with this franchise. We do have holes, but you're always gonna have holes. We've gotta start developing more of these under the radar guys.

Absolutely this.

Seems like a lot of teams find solid players/stars with their late round picks and UDFA's. I can't remember the last late round/UDFA guy of ours that is on a level of a Burfict, Cruz, Welker, Romo, etc.


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