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chiefzilla1501 04-06-2014 11:47 AM

The chiefs as a whole went into a shell. The offense played a ridiculously conservative protect the lead strategy I'm the second half. The defense completely cut their first half strategy and played unbelievably conservative.

Sutton is a concern. But a lot of the defensive collapse had Andys fingerprints on it. It sure seems like the team as a whole went over conservative to protect the lead. Which again calls into question if his game management is a major liability we should worry about.

chiefzilla1501 04-06-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10543256)
You sure love those Chiefs, huh?

I have been very critical of their 2013 offseason. But nice try.

TheUte 04-06-2014 12:20 PM

With what has happened so far, I just don't understand the Alex smith trade.

It's almost like there is no plan at all.

Discuss Thrower 04-06-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10543320)
With what has happened so far, I just don't understand the Alex smith trade.

It's almost like there is no plan at all.

The football equivalent to the Battlestar Galactica finale.

mcaj22 04-06-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10543342)
The football equivalent to the Battlestar Galactica finale.

lol perfect

WhiteWhale 04-06-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10542950)
Phisophically, I agree with the build through the draft approach.

However, I can not support the mixed approach that the two off seasons have entailed.

Building through the draft behind trading two premium picks for a 29 year old QB is limiting any potential window.

When the pieces you are adding in this draft are ready, Smith and other pieces you already have in place will be hitting the end of their windows.

These contradictory moves are almost assuredly setting this franchise up for an endless cycle of mediocrity.

Your logic is sound, but I don't entirely agree.

This idea that you have to do one or the other is bad, and the average 'youth movement' is a stupid garbage philosophy that rarely bears fruit. Look at what Herm did. He got talented players and built entirely with youth and the result was a team that simply could not figure out how to win.

To build a good team, good franchises use all avenues available to them. I don't feel that losing two 2nd round picks is a back breaker moving forward. I cannot look at the guys who were available and think we're be further along with Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Alex Smith brought a stabilizing presence to a team that has been in total flux at QB since Trent Green left. Now I'd much prefer to find that guy who can start for us until 2030, but I don't really want to sit through 3-4 more 2-14 seasons waiting for us to get him. I don't like playing for draft position. That's what perpetually shitty teams do (except the Colts, who tanked in the right season). Mediocrity is better than being a gutter team, like the Lions or modern Raiders. The chances of making a leap are much better.

It doesn't take a decade to improve.

Messier 04-06-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10543320)
With what has happened so far, I just don't understand the Alex smith trade.

It's almost like there is no plan at all.

Why do so many people act like the team has been gutted?

Hammock Parties 04-06-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10543391)
Why do so many people act like the team has been gutted?

Because of the blood everywhere?

Discuss Thrower 04-06-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10543391)
Why do so many people act like the team has been gutted?

It was a thin roster on Jan 4, 2014.

It is much more so now.

WhiteWhale 04-06-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10543431)
It was a thin roster on Jan 4, 2014.

It is much more so now.

KC has not lost anything I find particularly vital. The only guy I'd have like to have kept is Schwartz, and it's not like that's a game changer.

Hammock Parties 04-06-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10543445)
KC has not lost anything I find particularly vital.

Yeah a top 10 LT is no big deal. LMAO

WhiteWhale 04-06-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10543446)
Yeah a top 10 LT is no big deal. LMAO

How did our offense perform in the games Albert missed as opposed to the games he played in?

When a guy doesn't play and the offense performs at the same level, that's a sign he's not too vital. LT is not as important as it used to be.

TEX 04-06-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10543379)
Your logic is sound, but I don't entirely agree.

This idea that you have to do one or the other is bad, and the average 'youth movement' is a stupid garbage philosophy that rarely bears fruit. Look at what Herm did. He got talented players and built entirely with youth and the result was a team that simply could not figure out how to win.

To build a good team, good franchises use all avenues available to them. I don't feel that losing two 2nd round picks is a back breaker moving forward. I cannot look at the guys who were available and think we're be further along with Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Alex Smith brought a stabilizing presence to a team that has been in total flux at QB since Trent Green left. Now I'd much prefer to find that guy who can start for us until 2030, but I don't really want to sit through 3-4 more 2-14 seasons waiting for us to get him. I don't like playing for draft position. That's what perpetually shitty teams do (except the Colts, who tanked in the right season). Mediocrity is better than being a gutter team, like the Lions or modern Raiders. The chances of making a leap are much better.

It doesn't take a decade to improve.

:facepalm:

WhiteWhale 04-06-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10543460)
:facepalm:

You forgot to flail your wrists and cut yourself.

Drama queens bein' dramatic.

TEX 04-06-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10543446)
Yeah a top 10 LT is no big deal. LMAO

ROFL That you think B.A. was a top 10 LT.


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