Not one team has OLine depth.


I will take talent working with outstanding coaching every time over a loser franchise that is so bad it receives empathy from it's own division rivals.

They are also idiots for not drafting Ruben Foster at 29.

and an OLineman but man u were so close

I don't think the browns approach is wrong. I wonder if it's a little arrogant. It's almost like they're trying to prove moneyball works by passing on highly touted prospects. They're not just trading high priced veterans. They're also giving away cheap ones, repeatedly trading down in the first round, and passing up on highly ranked prospects.

The Browns are NOT employing "Moneyball".

NFL teams have to spend within 99% of the Cap Limit over a 4 year period. Baseball has no such rule.

The Browns are NOT going out and getting guys on the cheap, they're loading up on draft picks in order to select the best player that fits there system that's available.

They have SIX picks in the Top 100 in 2018 and they'll probably continue to stockpile talent and move around in the draft.

It won't be very long until they're a contender year in and year out.

I guess it depends on how you look at it.

I would give up every pick they made last year for their original 2nd overall to pick Carson Wentz.

Carson Wentz over Garrett, Njoku, Peppers and Kizer?

No thanks.

I've been shucking wisdom teeth all morning, what have I missed

Garrett was from them sucking. He wasn't a traded pick. I'm talking about the 2016 draft.

Carson Wentz or...

Corey Coleman
Emmanuel Ogbah
Carl Nassib
Shin Coleman
Cody Kessler
Joe Schobert
Ricardo Louis
Etc

I don't blame them for passing over Wentz. While he was my favorite and IMO, far more advanced than Jared Goff, he was coming from a small school.

Plus, they clearly had a vision of what the team would look like in the following 3 years, as well as the draft, so they didn't need to force the pick.

Their 2016 draft turned out pretty well, they added a nice piece in Jamie Collins and by all accounts, Myles Garrett is for real.

AND they have two 1st's, two 2nd's and two 3rd's in the 2018 draft.

That makes more sense. Yeah.....I'd trade all that garbage for Wentz.

Am I the only one that's not a big fan of Wentz?

And with that....it makes a ton of sense to see what you have in Kizer this year. He could be your QBoTF or he could be another Jimmy Clausen scenario.

I don't disagree with how the Browns are building their team. The draft is the way to go. I just disagree with how they drafted. I would rather have a Von Miller like player AND Patrick Willis instead of Von Miller and a Greg Olson like player.

It's a little difficult to judge Wentz because his receiving corp was just so awful last year.

He reminded me of Rothlisberger pre-draft and looked the part for a while.

It'll be interesting to see if Goff makes any type of advancement this year but the Rams roster is so depleted that it could be difficult to assess him, too.

I still can't figure out why Les Snead has a job but that's a different subject altogether.