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Halfcan 11-20-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 13906627)
I asked earlier in this thread what the call was against Hill. After he scored. I asked because if it was for the dueces sign, that should not be a penalty. In the Madden video game he does that. But after goff scored on his running td he Dunked the ball over the goal post. A clear penalty at this point in the NFL it was ignored. Neither of these penalties or the lack thereof changed the game but it does show at least the officiating crew was not enforcing the rule book correctly. We still lost because Goff drove his team down to score in the final minutes and mahomes failed to do so. But the refs weren't great.

Dunking over the Goalpost the TG Rule- is usually Always enforced now. An easy call- but it was Goff and you know the firefighters and all. The crowd had been through a lot so they needed to be uplifted.

Hill's peace sign was Offensive. Kneeling during the anthem wasn't, but the Peace sign is. The Rams needed to take some of the excitement back after the Huge play- so the Refs obliged. Pretty obvious.

Eleazar 11-20-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13906655)
Pittsburgh is the second most penalized team right now behind the Chiefs. Rams are right in the middle. It's clearly not as obvious as you surmise.

The conspiracy loons always point out the fact that we get called for a lot more penalties than our opponents, never considering the fact the we might actually commit more. By their logic if the penalties aren't even, then that's hard evidence of bias against us. Never considered is the simplest explanation, that we just happen to commit a lot of penalties.

We're way above the league average in almost every category of penalty, and many of these are pre-snap penalties, or other penalties like hands to the face that are not subjective.

The refs are not making our guys false start. They aren't making people jump offside. They don't force people's hands up into facemasks or get people to grab handfuls of receivers' jerseys.

If there's some massive bias here, show it. Show us all these penalties that are BS against us or getting ignored for our opponents. Rarely do you see that, mostly you just hear that it's impossible that a very disciplined team like the Patriots could have a game where they commit few penalties. No evidence, just the claim that they couldn't have done it. But since this is a massive conspiracy in every game, there should be a ton of specific examples of clearly false flags being thrown.

Of course, some things are missed in every game, whether the Chiefs are playing in that game or not. Some things like holding and PI are somewhat subjective. But we largely do not have an argument against the flags we are getting. Every time they show the replay it seems like the DB has an arm around a guy as he's coming out of his break or he's got a handful of jersey or he's in contact before the ball arrives and isn't playing the ball.

We've got a mediocre offensive line that's holding and getting a lot of false starts because they are undisciplined and not very good. We have a secondary that's getting a lot of holding and DPI because they are undisciplined and not very good. This really isn't hard to figure out.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:37 PM

Hill definitely taunted BTW... it was how he did it this time. Lame call and they ignored two or three "taunts" by LA though

Mecca 11-20-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13906616)
DUMB****S really don't think games are slanted a certain way ROFL JFC probably the same people that thought wrasslin was real too. MUH HO-GAN!!

It's really really hard to admit that something you invest hundreds of hours into and for a lot of people is a big part of their lives and their happiness...it's hard to turn around and admit that it's all a facade. That everything you believed is bullshit and all of that.

For most it's just easier to either defend it, or ignore it and go on like it's always been. Coming to terms with some of these things is such a core thing for so many fans that they can't admit it because it makes them feel like they aren't authentic either.

That's why we have this issue, no one wants to admit something they care so much about is a bullshit facade for a business that makes money.

So here we stand...also it really is the societal way if you believe anything that is outside the box like say that the NFL isn't exactly on the up and up there will always be the majority to shame you back into the box.

Eleazar 11-20-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13906690)
Dunking over the Goalpost the TG Rule- is usually Always enforced now. An easy call- but it was Goff and you know the firefighters and all. The crowd had been through a lot so they needed to be uplifted.

Hill's peace sign was Offensive. Kneeling during the anthem wasn't, but the Peace sign is. The Rams needed to take some of the excitement back after the Huge play- so the Refs obliged. Pretty obvious.

He didn't dunk it, it was a layup. That's not the "TG rule".

And taunting another player during a play like Hill did is always going to be called.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:39 PM

Cochise once again simply ignores all the calls the refs "didn't see" on LA...just like what happened in NE. Sure, KC committed fouls, but only one team was CALLED for them. Go pound one out to Audio Slave or something to release this pent up frustration about our legit complaints.

Mecca 11-20-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 13906677)
Consistancy I think is all we want in the calls. If the deuces was a penalty so was Peter's laying on Mahomes.
If someone has false starts call them. Holding call them. Blatant miscalls to me are worse than ticky tack fouls

Consistency is why we have this conversation all the time...like I said earlier the Children have different rules on the playing field every game.

O.city 11-20-2018 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13906702)
It's really really hard to admit that something you invest hundreds of hours into and for a lot of people is a big part of their lives and their happiness...it's hard to turn around and admit that it's all a facade. That everything you believed is bullshit and all of that.

For most it's just easier to either defend it, or ignore it and go on like it's always been. Coming to terms with some of these things is such a core thing for so many fans that they can't admit it because it makes them feel like they aren't authentic either.

That's why we have this issue, no one wants to admit something they care so much about is a bullshit facade for a business that makes money.

So here we stand...also it really is the societal way if you believe anything that is outside the box like say that the NFL isn't exactly on the up and up there will always be the majority to shame you back into the box.

What about the people who are "woke" to it still getting upset and spending time watching it?

Mecca 11-20-2018 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13906703)
He didn't dunk it, it was a layup. That's not the "TG rule".

And taunting another player during a play like Hill did is always going to be called.

Unless it's a CB laying on top of a QB in the endzone or removing his helmet on the field then it's not.

Eleazar 11-20-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13906706)
Cochise once again simply ignores all the calls the refs "didn't see" on LA...just like what happened in NE. Sure, KC committed fouls, but only one team was CALLED for them. Go pound one out to Audio Slave or something to release this pent up frustration about our legit complaints.

Show us all these penalties they're getting away with, and show us all the corresponding flags that are getting thrown against us for doing similar things.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:41 PM

They "didn't see it", Mecca

Mecca 11-20-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13906709)
What about the people who are "woke" to it still getting upset and spending time watching it?

Well the WWE has fans and they know it's fake....it's just a different set of what people bitch about.

I'll fully make this comment I sit here and I hope that Mahomes is good enough that KC gets calls someday...it's horrible that that is where I am as a fan. I'll say this again too, he's the only reason I still watch games, I was ready to move on that year.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13906715)
Show us all these penalties they're getting away with, and show us all the corresponding flags that are getting thrown against us for doing similar things.

ROFL Did you even watch the games?

Eleazar 11-20-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13906719)
ROFL Did you even watch the games?

That's what I thought.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:43 PM

I've given DOZENS of examples in various threads.


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