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RaidersOftheCellar 03-21-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 16866850)
Hopkins is the better receiver and better scheme fit at this point. He will take attention away from Kelce and is a favourable red zone matchup. I do not trust OBJ’s durability whatsoever and he doth protest too much. D-Hop is a consummate pro. He will work and wants a ring. OBJ wants a bag. Cap/dollars can be massaged/manipulated. Fit cannot.

I'm not sure that Beckham expects a bag. He's probably smart enough to understand that he can't command that in his situation. If not, he'll probably figure it out soon.

I don't worry too much about his ego causing problems. How often does that happen with Reid teams? He'd get plenty of touches and would be competing for a SB in the most creative offense in the league, with the best QB in the league and a coach that will scheme him open constantly. What's he going to bitch about? LMAO

RaidersOftheCellar 03-21-2023 09:18 AM

I'd love to have Hopkins on the roster, but trading premier draft picks and giving a huge contract to an aging vet seems pretty desperate and risky. Leave that shit to the Bills or idiot franchises like Denver.

ToxSocks 03-21-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16866776)
dhop > obj

is that the consensus?

I think Dhop is the more reliable player and you're more likely to get a complete season out of him.

When they're both fully healthy and on the field they're both premiere talents at the position, though i think OBJ offers a bit more speed. Both have some of the best hands in the game but i think the nod there goes to Dhop.

But with Dhop, you're paying a premium for that extra reliability as he'll cost at least 2-3x as much $$$ + draft picks.

You're effectively paying that additional premium for better odds that you'll get 20 games out of him.

Talent wise, they're similar. Health/availability wise, they're not. So imo, that's what you have to weigh out when determining if the additional cost to acquire one vs the other is worth it.

arrowheadnation 03-21-2023 10:01 AM

Why not get 'em both? If anything just to hear the salty bitch crying from other fanbases about how everything is rigged in our favor and that the salary cap doesn't apply to us. Plus, we've already won 2, why not take a shot at an undefeated season while Kelce is still in his prime and the D is acceptable?

The Franchise 03-21-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 16867224)
Why not get 'em both? If anything just to hear the salty bitch crying from other fanbases about how everything is rigged in our favor and that the salary cap doesn't apply to us. Plus, we've already won 2, why not take a shot at an undefeated season while Kelce is still in his prime and the D is acceptable?

Because you can't afford both of them?

Megatron96 03-21-2023 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16867157)
I'd love to have Hopkins on the roster, but trading premier draft picks and giving a huge contract to an aging vet seems pretty desperate and risky. Leave that shit to the Bills or idiot franchises like Denver.

Premier? We don't have premier draft picks do we?

Rainbarrel 03-21-2023 11:03 AM

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RaidersOftheCellar 03-21-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16867290)
Premier? We don't have premier draft picks do we?

However you want to label it, I'm not in favor of giving up a 1st.

Megatron96 03-21-2023 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16867467)
However you want to label it, I'm not in favor of giving up a 1st.

Thought it was a 2nd?

htismaqe 03-21-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16867467)
However you want to label it, I'm not in favor of giving up a 1st.

They're not asking for a 1st so it's moot.

They reportedly want to start at a 2nd rounder and go from there.

RaidersOftheCellar 03-21-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16867519)
They're not asking for a 1st so it's moot.

They reportedly want to start at a 2nd rounder and go from there.

Thought it was reported that the Chiefs offered them a 2nd but they were holding out for a first. Haven't been keeping up with it closely.

ToxSocks 03-21-2023 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16867640)
Thought it was reported that the Chiefs offered them a 2nd but they were holding out for a first. Haven't been keeping up with it closely.

I think if anyone were offering a 2nd his ass would be traded by now.

htismaqe 03-21-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16867640)
Thought it was reported that the Chiefs offered them a 2nd but they were holding out for a first. Haven't been keeping up with it closely.

No, AFAIK nobody has offered them anything yet. At least not that's been acknowledged publicly. There's been several talking heads that have said the Cardinals starting price was a 2nd rounder.

RaidersOftheCellar 03-21-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16867713)
No, AFAIK nobody has offered them anything yet. At least not that's been acknowledged publicly. There's been several talking heads that have said the Cardinals starting price was a 2nd rounder.

I wouldn't be opposed to giving up the 2nd, especially when it's basically a 3rd. Not sure I'd pay him 18 per for 3 or more years though.

htismaqe 03-21-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16867956)
I wouldn't be opposed to giving up the 2nd, especially when it's basically a 3rd. Not sure I'd pay him 18 per for 3 or more years though.

I think the fact that they want to open negotiations at a 2nd rounder suggest they'll take a 3rd or even 4th if they get the right offer.


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