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MIAdragon 11-07-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 7156264)
cassel haters can eat a dick. no way this is on him. He threw it on the money to ice the game

Did you miss the 3rd qtr you idiot

ottawa_chiefs_fan 11-07-2010 07:05 PM

weis is a ****ing idiot - an old man that is past it

SDChiefs 11-07-2010 07:06 PM

Raider fans unite and send thank you cards to the nfl officiating office. The only reason you guys won was because of the refs. Take back the ko return where the raiders did an obvious block in the back and give us our ko return that there was no penalty on and were 6-2:

Chiefshrink 11-07-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 7156240)
Flowers not knowing how to be a corner costs the Chiefs big time.

Not really. This is what happens when you can't score TDs in the red zone and convert on 3rd downs. Technically this game should have been over at half time.

Swanman 11-07-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7156258)
Haley certainly needs to answer for the use of the RBs.

But he won't because the pussy KC journalists won't be willing to call him out.

KC kid 11-07-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 7156295)
Did you miss the 3rd qtr you idiot

No did you, dick eater?

rockymtnchief 11-07-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 7156274)
And Weis calling runs between the tackles repeatedly in the first half.

This!!!!

The Franchise 11-07-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 7156264)
cassel haters can eat a dick. no way this is on him. He threw it on the money to ice the game

Go ****ing kill yourself.

Chiefshrink 11-07-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ottawa_chiefs_fan (Post 7156297)
weis is a ****ing idiot - an old man that is past it

Naaaah. The players couldn't convert when it counted plain and simple.

Chiefnj2 11-07-2010 07:08 PM

Bowe catches that ball and it's game over.

You have to go for it in OT, punting the ball from your endzone to a team with a kicker like Janikowski is just asking to lose the game, even without the nice pass that went by Flowers.

Oakland wanted it more.

KC kid 11-07-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7156315)
Go ****ing kill yourself.

I would ask Bowe to shoot me, but he would drop the gun.

Championship 11-07-2010 07:08 PM

You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

Rain Man 11-07-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 7156245)
This game is on Haley and Bowe. . . . and the offensive line. Throw flowers in there too


Weis, for giving the ball to Jones 19 times for 32 yards when Charles was averaging 5.6 ypc.

Weis and/or Cassel for throwing a 1-yard pass to Pope on 3rd and 3 in overtime.

Jones for not getting it done today.

Bowe for a .500 fielding percentage.

Flowers in a rare bad performance.

Travis Daniels for half-assing the coverage on that kickoff return.

Studebaker for costing us 3 points and also drawing a 30-yard penalty on a kickoff.

Probably others, too.

Lzen 11-07-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 7156264)
cassel haters can eat a dick. no way this is on him. He threw it on the money to ice the game

Take Matt's cock out of your mouth for a second. Cassel threw a great pass that Bowe should have caught but didn't. Ok, fine. He didn't catch it. You still gotta play. He made shit decision in OT. Looked like Bowe was open over the middle but he chose to throw it to FB in the flat for a 1 yard loss. A good QB doesn't do that. Cassel also made a poor decision at the end of the half. We could have scored points there and been in better position to win the game at the end. I could point to a few others, as well. Cassel made some plays in this game. I won't deny that. But when the team needed him to make the plays in OT, he failed. He's too inconsistent.

Chief_in_Commander 11-07-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

lol......the Raiders own the chiefs? Wow you finally won a home game against congrats, does the saying even a blind squirrel finds a nut mean anything to you? Were still ahead of you in the division and you still have to come to arrowhead, i'm not ready to cash in yet

Chiefs Pantalones 11-07-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

That was your Super Bowl. Congrats.

Rain Man 11-07-2010 07:12 PM

I have no idea who Jacoby Ford is, but he's the luckiest guy in the universe (other than being signed by the Raiders).

Mizzou_8541 11-07-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

What bitch are we not to forget?

Chiefshrink 11-07-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

Oh man:rolleyes: Al Davis will piss on your shoes by season's end and we'll see who the "BITCH" is at the end. AFC West is wide open for claim right now at least for 3 teams. It still is a long season remaining:thumb:

kcpasco 11-07-2010 07:14 PM

Well the Raiders went for the win in OT and the Chiefs looked like they wanted to run out the clock I guess.

siberian khatru 11-07-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

I hope you get gunned down in a robbery tonight

KCSupersized 11-07-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

Lick some salty balls D-Bag!

kcpasco 11-07-2010 07:15 PM

Don't feed the troll

ArrowheadHawk 11-07-2010 07:15 PM

Does anybody cheat more than the Raiders. They cheat so damn much that the refs can't call everything.

KCrockaholic 11-07-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

OMG The raiders beat the Chiefs in oakland for the first time in 7 years. Let's act like they just won the Super Bowl!

MMXcalibur 11-07-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

Winning by 3 in overtime to snap an 8-game losing streak at home to KC? Yeah, you own us.

Rain Man 11-07-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 7156378)
Well the Raiders went for the win in OT and the Chiefs looked like they wanted to run out the clock I guess.

I honestly don't understand why, when the game is on the line, we don't give the ball time after time after time to our running back who is averaging 6+ yards per carry. It drives me nuts to see Charles leave the field on key downs in overtime.

KCrockaholic 11-07-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 7156404)
Does anybody cheat more than the Raiders. They cheat so damn much that the refs can't call everything.

Did they have 1 legal play?

Donger 11-07-2010 07:17 PM

So, is the consensus that Haley's 4th down gambles and trick plays are still a good thing or not?

KCrockaholic 11-07-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7156419)
I honestly don't understand why, when the game is on the line, we don't give the ball time after time after time to our running back who is averaging 6+ yards per carry. It drives me nuts to see Charles leave the field on key downs in overtime.

Ask Charlie Weis. Apparently he's a genius.

craneref 11-07-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

So was that rookie left Tackle blocking or loving on Hali EVERY pass play, because he had his hands wrapped around his head all freakin day!! You are still looking at the CHIEFS ass int he standings, enjoy your short lived victory.

KCrockaholic 11-07-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7156432)
So, is the consensus that Haley's 4th down gambles and trick plays are still a good thing or not?

On 4th and 6? That was stupid. But that isn't what cost us the game.

notorious 11-07-2010 07:19 PM

The Raiders had more turnovers.

The Raiders had 5 billion penalties.


The chances that they win that game are so low Dick Vermiel's head exploded.

We had to TRY and lose to get todays result.


**** you Chiefs. We are not a good team.

TheGuardian 11-07-2010 07:19 PM

I called this loss.

The Raiders HAD to have this game. If we win their season is essentially over.

They still won't make the playoffs.

Donger 11-07-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 7156440)
On 4th and 6? That was stupid. But that isn't what cost us the game.

No, it was 4th and 1 before the penalty, wasn't it?

Chiefshrink 11-07-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 7156378)
Well the Raiders went for the win in OT and the Chiefs looked like they wanted to run out the clock I guess.

C'mon dude! When you start at your own 10 at the end of field known as the "black hole" you have to be somewhat conservative. it limits your play calling. If you are behind in regulation then yes of course but that was not the case.

Swanman 11-07-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Championship (Post 7156327)
You stupid mother ****ing losers, I told you ****ing Hillbillys that your team was a ****ing fraud.

Hows that crow tatste, you bitch ass Sister banging ****s!

And Brandon Flowers? LMAFAOROFLMAO

The Raiders own the Chiefs, and dont ever forget that bitch

I guess being a good winner is out of the question with you, no surprise there. Congrats, the Raiders won an extremely wacky and terribly officiated game. The Raiders coaching staff stayed aggressive and the KC coaching staff pissed down their legs.

But remember, the East Bay Convicts still need to visit KC, shitdick.

Sonic Cowboy-Raider 11-07-2010 07:22 PM

Hey Chiefs

How You Like Us Now?

Chiefs winning streak against Raiders in Oakland is over. There will be no season sweep from you, Denver, or San Diego against us this year.

KCrockaholic 11-07-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7156454)
No, it was 4th and 1 before the penalty, wasn't it?

Yes. But after the penalty it was 4th and 6. 4th and 1 is one thing. But 4th and 6 you have to punt.

Just Passin' By 11-07-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7156347)
Take Matt's cock out of your mouth for a second. Cassel threw a great pass that Bowe should have caught but didn't. Ok, fine. He didn't catch it. You still gotta play. He made shit decision in OT. Looked like Bowe was open over the middle but he chose to throw it to FB in the flat for a 1 yard loss. A good QB doesn't do that. Cassel also made a poor decision at the end of the half. We could have scored points there and been in better position to win the game at the end. I could point to a few others, as well. Cassel made some plays in this game. I won't deny that. But when the team needed him to make the plays in OT, he failed. He's too inconsistent.

What a load of bullshit.

Swanman 11-07-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 7156456)
C'mon dude! When you start at your own 10 at the end of field known as the "black hole" you have to be somewhat conservative. it limits your play calling. If you are behind in regulation then yes of course but that was not the case.

The fact that Thomas Jones saw the field on the second play in OT was inexcusable. You can still be somewhat conservative but you need to have the right personnel on the field, especially in OT. TJ has been good this season overall, but today he was doing his best LJ impression.

kcpasco 11-07-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 7156456)
C'mon dude! When you start at your own 10 at the end of field known as the "black hole" you have to be somewhat conservative. it limits your play calling. If you are behind in regulation then yes of course but that was not the case.

Well it's OT and you have to take chances, because I knew once we punted that game was history

joltnjoey 11-07-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7156461)
I guess being a good winner is out of the question with you, no surprise there. Congrats, the Raiders won an extremely wacky and terribly officiated game. The Raiders coaching staff stayed aggressive and the KC coaching staff pissed down their legs.

But remember, the East Bay Convicts still need to visit KC, shitdick.

Not knowing you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and figure you would not have gloated. That being said you have to forgive some of us. This isn't something we have been able to do for some time. Great game(sloppy and poorly officiated), but fun to watch and honestly I'm physically exhausted. That game in KC is going to be fun. Nice effort fellas.

Sonic Cowboy-Raider 11-07-2010 07:25 PM

Also

You guys put up a helluva fight, close game like all Raiders-Chiefs games are. I gotta give you credit, your G.M. is very good in drafting quality players that were captains on their respective teams. Haley, as much as I dislike him, is a good coach. The rematch in your house will be no different.

Good Game Chief Fans.

Chiefshrink 11-07-2010 07:25 PM

Hopefully this will teach the young Chiefs to convert 3rd downs and score TDs in the redzone.

KCrockaholic 11-07-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Raider (Post 7156511)
Also

You guys put up a helluva fight, close game like all Raiders-Chiefs games are. I gotta give you credit, your G.M. is very good in drafting quality players that were captains on their respective teams. Haley, as much as I dislike him, is a good coach. The rematch in your house will be no different.

Good Game Chief Fans.

Decent post. Except the bold part.

Swanman 11-07-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joltnjoey (Post 7156505)
Not knowing you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and figure you would not have gloated. That being said you have to forgive some of us. This isn't something we have been able to do for some time. Great game(sloppy and poorly officiated), but fun to watch and honestly I'm physically exhausted. That game in KC is going to be fun. Nice effort fellas.

My post was directed at Championship, a Raiders troll. I don't mind other Raider fans but there were a couple guys really showing their ass during the week and today. It's fine, it's all part of the innernets.

R@ID3R4LIF3 11-07-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7156548)
My post was directed at Championship, a Raiders troll. I don't mind other Raider fans but there were a couple guys really showing their ass during the week and today. It's fine, it's all part of the innernets.

Common now you have to expect that's going to happen. We had to deal with the same shit all week from Hali homers talking about how he was going to dominate our Division II rookie LT.

Lzen 11-07-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7156485)
What a load of bullshit.

What, exactly, in most did you find to be BS? Oh, and let's also not forget the series late in the game where Cassel threw about 2 or 3 passes in a row that were off target. Thrown on target and the Chiefs probably had a 1st down and chew more clock.

BIG_DADDY 11-07-2010 07:37 PM

This was a really bad game by both teams. It was played terribly, officiated horribly and we still found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I lost 3 hours of my life watching that abortion.

R@ID3R4LIF3 11-07-2010 07:38 PM

This was possible the worst officiated game I have seen. Both teams were given multiple chances top put points on the board. We just took advantage when it mattered most. Any other year the 4th Qtr would have been a lock for opposing teams. Not so much this year.

Just Passin' By 11-07-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7156602)
What, exactly, in most did you find to be BS? Oh, and let's also not forget the series late in the game where Cassel threw about 2 or 3 passes in a row that were off target. Thrown on target and the Chiefs probably had a 1st down and chew more clock.

Cassel led the team from behind and got them the lead. He then got the ball in a situation where they needed to get the first down to ice the game, and he got the ball to Bowe who, once again, came up with the drop.

In the overtime, Cassel got the ball to his receivers. One couldn't shake his defender, and the other couldn't even hold on to the damned ball.


Blaming Cassel is about as idiotic as it gets. That "A good QB doesn't do that" bullshit ramps it up to even higher levels, considering that all QBs do what you're bitching about.

Swanman 11-07-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by R@ID3R4LIF3 (Post 7156619)
This was possible the worst officiated game I have seen. Both teams were given multiple chances top put points on the board. We just took advantage when it mattered most. Any other year the 4th Qtr would have been a lock for opposing teams. Not so much this year.

It was just a weird game all around. These refs will have some questions to answer once the league office reviews the game tape.

I think the major difference was that the Raiders coaches stayed aggressive until the end and their skill players executed in the clutch, our coaches and players shit the bed.

boogblaster 11-07-2010 07:49 PM

we got some bad calls .. they did too .. we had chances to win .. we didnt .. but all in all we need another WR and we need Mc Cluster bak in ball games .......

Swanman 11-07-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7156634)
In the overtime, Cassel got the ball to his receivers. One couldn't shake his defender, and the other couldn't even hold on to the damned ball.


While I won't complain tons about Cassel during regulation (he is what he is) but in OT, that third down pass was beyond stupid. You don't throw it to your slow lumbering TE 2 yards behind the sticks unless there is no one within 15 yards of him. Not to mention others were open beyond the sticks if he would have done a half-assed receiver progression.

boogblaster 11-07-2010 07:49 PM

we got some bad calls .. they did too .. we had chances to win .. we didnt .. but all in all we need another WR and we need Mc Cluster bak in ball games .......

R@ID3R4LIF3 11-07-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7156653)
It was just a weird game all around. These refs will have some questions to answer once the league office reviews the game tape.

I think the major difference was that the Raiders coaches stayed aggressive until the end and their skill players executed in the clutch, our coaches and players shit the bed.

Yea being able to make half time adjustments is not something that we are really known for.

kcpasco 11-07-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7156653)
It was just a weird game all around. These refs will have some questions to answer once the league office reviews the game tape.

I think the major difference was that the Raiders coaches stayed aggressive until the end and their skill players executed in the clutch, our coaches and players shit the bed.

I'm not one to over react like a lot of people on this site. Lol

I think we have a good young team that lacks the killer instinct to finish games, typical of young teams.

Rain Man 11-07-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7156665)
While I won't complain tons about Cassel during regulation (he is what he is) but in OT, that third down pass was beyond stupid. You don't throw it to your slow lumbering TE 2 yards behind the sticks unless there is no one within 15 yards of him. Not to mention others were open beyond the sticks if he would have done a half-assed receiver progression.


You shouldn't even have a guy running a 1-yard route on 3rd and 3. That's what kills me.

KC_Connection 11-07-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7156719)
You shouldn't even have a guy running a 1-yard route on 3rd and 3. That's what kills me.

Play calling remains a huge problem from game-to-game.

BIG_DADDY 11-07-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7156653)
It was just a weird game all around. These refs will have some questions to answer once the league office reviews the game tape.

I think the major difference was that the Raiders coaches stayed aggressive until the end and their skill players executed in the clutch, our coaches and players shit the bed.

We had chances to end the game. Bowe makes the catch instead of the ball bouncing off his chest.Knock the ****ing ball down instead of trying for personal stats with an INT and we win. It was moronic stupid BS. I don't have the issues others have with our coaching staff as much. Special teams starting the 2nd half was a ****ing joke. Even the FG we made but had an offsides penalty. We had 17 ****ing points pulled off the board in this game only 7 of which we got back.

BIG_DADDY 11-07-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7156719)
You shouldn't even have a guy running a 1-yard route on 3rd and 3. That's what kills me.

Yes, you need two ****ing yards, throw for more than 2 ****ing yards you douchebag.

Just Passin' By 11-07-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7156665)
While I won't complain tons about Cassel during regulation (he is what he is) but in OT, that third down pass was beyond stupid. You don't throw it to your slow lumbering TE 2 yards behind the sticks unless there is no one within 15 yards of him. Not to mention others were open beyond the sticks if he would have done a half-assed receiver progression.

That tight end is about 500 feet tall. He's got to be able to catch that ball and fall forward. Of course, if he'd run the route better and deeper, that would have removed even the fall as an issue.

Then again, he'd probably still have dropped it.

Over-Head 11-07-2010 11:19 PM

Ahem....... :D
What was that You bunch were saying about a beat down in Oakland????

BigMeatballDave 11-08-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Over-Head (Post 7157756)
Ahem....... :D
What was that You bunch were saying about a beat down in Oakland????

Well, after losing 7 straight at home, you had to win sooner or later. You know, law of averages. :)

the Talking Can 11-08-2010 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7156744)
That tight end is about 500 feet tall. He's got to be able to catch that ball and fall forward. Of course, if he'd run the route better and deeper, that would have removed even the fall as an issue.

Then again, he'd probably still have dropped it.

Cassel's #1 ball washer always shows up to console him....



meanwhile Campbell won oakland the game with 2 clutch drives in a row.....


but let's not do anything that would hurt Matty's tender feelings....he tried hard, and that's what matters..

Champ 11-08-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7156451)
I called this loss.

The Raiders HAD to have this game. If we win their season is essentially over.

They still won't make the playoffs.


LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

You called this loss? Sure buddy. You were telling us all week how the Chiefs were going to dominate the Raiders. Don't be a bitch now that the Chiefs loss to try to save face and say "You called the loss."

farmerchief 11-08-2010 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 7156685)
we got some bad calls .. they did too .. we had chances to win .. we didnt .. but all in all we need another WR and we need Mc Cluster bak in ball games .......


I agree, the Refs were equally bad for both teams. They really looked inept out there at times. Probably the worst, officiated game I can remember, that I watched all the way through. Still, Oakland made the plays when they had to, and KC didnt. Sad, but true! :-(

Old Dog 11-08-2010 08:03 AM

That was emotionally draining to say the least. If one were to try to assign blame, I would say there is plenty to go around.
McGraw dropping a pick, Berry with a block in the back on a punt return for a TD, Bowe and Moeaki, Cassel, Weis, Haley, just off of the top of my head (which still hurts).

The game was poorly called, but there were shitty calls both ways. All I can take from this is that if I were told we would be 5-3 and in first place after 8 games, I would have taken it.

Swanman 11-08-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7156744)
That tight end is about 500 feet tall. He's got to be able to catch that ball and fall forward. Of course, if he'd run the route better and deeper, that would have removed even the fall as an issue.

Then again, he'd probably still have dropped it.

Pope makes me miss the days of Jason Dunn, a TE that could block and catch a pass here and there.

Problem with that route was the Pope was running sideways with a defender draped on him, it would have been tough to get the first even if he caught the ball. That pattern can work if no one picks him like, like a pass to a fullback in the flat. But the second Cassel saw a defender close by, he should have scanned the field, others were open past the sticks. I am sure there is a pic in the Gif'd up thread showing that, knowing the Horsey.

spanky 52 11-08-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7158140)
Pope makes me miss the days of Jason Dunn, a TE that could block and catch a pass here and there.

Problem with that route was the Pope was running sideways with a defender draped on him, it would have been tough to get the first even if he caught the ball. That pattern can work if no one picks him like, like a pass to a fullback in the flat. But the second Cassel saw a defender close by, he should have scanned the field, others were open past the sticks. I am sure there is a pic in the Gif'd up thread showing that, knowing the Horsey.

Dunn wasn't flashy but he was solid. Good player. On the play in question I believe Bowe was ahead of his man crossing the middle. We're gradually getting better but we're handicapped at the QB position.

siberian khatru 11-08-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 7158140)
Pope makes me miss the days of Jason Dunn, a TE that could block and catch a pass here and there.

Problem with that route was the Pope was running sideways with a defender draped on him, it would have been tough to get the first even if he caught the ball. That pattern can work if no one picks him like, like a pass to a fullback in the flat. But the second Cassel saw a defender close by, he should have scanned the field, others were open past the sticks. I am sure there is a pic in the Gif'd up thread showing that, knowing the Horsey.

It appeared to be another of those plays that Cassel has made up his mind the moment the ball is snapped where he's going to throw it.

I dunno, maybe Weis has taught him to do that, to eliminate sacks and minimize chances Cassel will make the wrong read, and they figure more often than not Cassel will complete the pass and they'll get positive yardage.

But it makes for frustrating moments when you see open guys elsewhere, where if he had just taken another second or two to scan the field he could've had a big play.

the Talking Can 11-08-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7158170)
It appeared to be another of those plays that Cassel has made up his mind the moment the ball is snapped where he's going to throw it.

I dunno, maybe Weis has taught him to do that, to eliminate sacks and minimize chances Cassel will make the wrong read, and they figure more often than not Cassel will complete the pass and they'll get positive yardage.

But it makes for frustrating moments when you see open guys elsewhere, where if he had just taken another second or two to scan the field he could've had a big play.

he had a pocket, there was no reason to panic

Chiefnj2 11-08-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7158170)
It appeared to be another of those plays that Cassel has made up his mind the moment the ball is snapped where he's going to throw it.

I dunno, maybe Weis has taught him to do that, to eliminate sacks and minimize chances Cassel will make the wrong read, and they figure more often than not Cassel will complete the pass and they'll get positive yardage.

But it makes for frustrating moments when you see open guys elsewhere, where if he had just taken another second or two to scan the field he could've had a big play.

He scanned the field from left to right on that throw.

TheGuardian 11-08-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Champ (Post 7158031)
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

You called this loss? Sure buddy. You were telling us all week how the Chiefs were going to dominate the Raiders. Don't be a bitch now that the Chiefs loss to try to save face and say "You called the loss."

Uh yeah I called it. My prediction was Raiders 17 Chiefs 13 I believe.

Want me to link it?

siberian khatru 11-08-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7158175)
He scanned the field from left to right on that throw.

I just rewatched it and I think he looked left as a fake and then immediately turned to the right to get it to Pope. I didn't see any scanning. Maybe there was supposed to be something open quickly on the left? Still looked like a fake left but going to the right to me.

DBOSHO 11-08-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 7156728)
We had chances to end the game. Bowe makes the catch instead of the ball bouncing off his chest.Knock the ****ing ball down instead of trying for personal stats with an INT and we win. It was moronic stupid BS. I don't have the issues others have with our coaching staff as much. Special teams starting the 2nd half was a ****ing joke. Even the FG we made but had an offsides penalty. We had 17 ****ing points pulled off the board in this game only 7 of which we got back.

How is it personal stats? If he picks that, which 99.9 times out of 100 he does, the game is over. Ford just made a good play, but flowers definitely shouldve held onto that ball.

He just had a really bad game.

BIG_DADDY 11-08-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 7158184)
How is it personal stats? If he picks that, which 99.9 times out of 100 he does, the game is over. Ford just made a good play, but flowers definitely shouldve held onto that ball.

He just had a really bad game.

Game is over if he just knocks the ball down. YOu knock the ball down in that situation.


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