Also, this thread needs to be dumped in the garbage.


GENO, VS BRAY.......

that's the only thing that matters.

No. One is more than likely a starter for the season while one is going to school. You FAIL.

QB #1 is 21 years old and in need of development.

QB #2 is 23 years old and in need of development.

Which do you choose?

So lets hear your projection of Genos season.

One is going to be groomed as he should be and one is going to be eaten alive.

2015= Geno bagging groceries, Bray taking the reigns.

WHEW! THAT'S ONE HUGE MOTHER****ING GAP, BRAH! LMAO

Boom.

In the worst case scenario, if Bray keeps his head on straight, he's a 10 year backup ala Frank Reich that can win games when the starter is injured.

Answer the ??

In football it is.

Answer the question.

There is a world of difference between a 21 year old and a 23 year old, especially in terms of development.

It was demonstrated on this board time and again, that once Alex was tapped, selecting Geno as a developmental number 2 was what was desired.

Geno went to the east coast black hole known as the Jets, and for him, the future looks pretty shitty. Would he have benefitted from learning under Reid and co.? We'll never know. That said, I'd rather have Geno competing with Bray for the number two spot than the useless sack of shit that we HANDED THE JOB TO ALL PIOLI-STYLE.

Geno is pretty much ****ed.

You realize that I wasn't dissing Geno, but making the comparable scenario accurate.

Going forward, 5 years from now, the debate is going to be should the Chiefs have drafted Geno Smith, instead of getting Bray.

it never was about the smiths. It was about the Chiefs finding a QBOTF.

Not a place holder.

I pass now?

And don't ****ing sit here and try to tell me that Dorsey and Reid throwing darts at a board makes them so ****ing smart if the kid turns in to a star.

It's just...

not...

TRUE.

Bullshit.

You mother****ers pushed for Geno at 1.1 until the mother****ing day of the draft.

Yeah, NO NFL QB has EVER gone into a bad situation and immediately turned it around.

:rolleyes:

Your knowledge of the NFL could fit into a thimble with room to spare.

No one pimped him as a starter after Alex was traded.

Yes he is ****ed, but he also didn't pass the "job interview" with 31 teams. So, while he is in a bad situation, something about him, his head, leadership skills, immaturity, something was a turn off to so many teams, KC included. He is where he is to some degree by his own doing (or undoing). He clearly needed to do a better a better job of making teams want him, especially QB starved teams.
I predict a meltdown sometime this season.

Starter? No. Competition? Yes.

1.1? ****ing absolutely.

I revel in the fact that all you dumbasses were wrong. None of you mother****ers would listen to me, to what I was hearing in league circles, etc.

Being right isn't nearly as fun as outing you and Clay and PGM and SNR as completely clueless.

Brays best case scenario is too good for even me to utter this soon.
But anyone who has seen the guy throw the ball knows it deep down.
Its way too early, but the lack of pressure to do it right now really seem like the Chiefs may finally have been smiled on by the football gods.

LMAO JFC...

No matter what anyone says, Dane has OWNED you from day 1.

The book isn't written yet, nostradumbass.

How is that funny? He has been right from the beginning.

He needs to stop licking his lips so damn much.

Ego much?

I just picture him sitting at his keyboard, veins popping, in a mental-froth somewhere between Hitler and Miley Cyrus.

LMAO yes, that too.

Oh, the first few chapters have actually.

Youre just too dumb to be able to recognize what is the twist in youre perspective.

:hmmm:

Yeah, that's just so ****ing funny considering that I've been right all along and you've looked like the Village Idiot.

That's a good look for you, BTW.

Although Dane has one, There is nothing egotistical in going against the constant barrage that was/are the Genobaters.

**** you much?

That's right Miley, you tell me good!

Definitely he takes to CP to a very unhealthy level. I mostly come to this place for the lol's haha.

It's just sooooooo important for some people to always be right, and for them to let you know they are right.

Hey ****tard, do you have any idea the amount of abuse I took from the Geno Mafia because I completely disagreed with their opinion?

I went so far to outline each and every detail as to why I didn't like Geno Smith and point to specific games and situations, yet all I received was a shitload of grief from these losers.

I seriously have no idea who you are but you can go **** yourself.

:facepalm:

Genos complete flameout will be an unexpected twist for you.

Geno will fail because he went to the Jets but he would have been so much better with the Chiefs.
The Chiefs excellent history of developing qb's and all.
Air raid does not transfer to the NFL. Wake the **** up you bozos.

The whole thing was/is about getting a legit QB prospect regardless of what the talking heads were spewing. It's good thing we have the ultra-smart Dorseid who can magically predict and sign high-risk/high-reward UDFA's! :rolleyes:

Well, it's pretty easy to do, considering you're one of the dumbest ****ing people to post in this forum.

You havent been paying attention.

Lol?

Just relax man. Geno is Geno. AS is AS. Both are making millions $$.

They will be fine.

If they only knew how much people get upset over them on internet messageboards. I think they'd find it hilarious.

So we'll add liar to your list of accomplishments.

Got it.

Go **** yourself

He's got the tools and he's a known brainiac. Does that make him less coachable than Bray?

You're right. I'm in and out on this stuff. But clearly there are definitive factions that exist, and everyone has this mentality of, "if you aren't with me, you are against me." Kind of political.

Oh Dane, tell us all about how RIGHT YOU ARE! We so love hearing it!

Known brainiac? I watched his entire college career. He's been a rigid uncoachable turd.

What does the Saints as a TEAM have to do with what Drew Brees did? He had 5000+ yards and 40+ TDs. He did his job. Meanwhile, he had the 31st ranked team in points allowed, and 32nd in yards allowed.

That's not a bust.

What I said about Geno had nothing to do with the Jets as a team. Just about him individually. If he's good, then even if the team is bad, he'll at least be average.

Poor Dane, mentally abused for months by the Geno Mafia on a football message board!

Perhaps there's a script in this!LMAO

Good lord, the season has not even started. Fisher has looked disappointing so far, should we label him a bust as you have with Geno?

Wrong.

For the record if he looked like a good NFL qb I would have been pimping him. You guys go nuts because he blew up some shitty college defenses.

They targeted him.
They got him. They took him from all 31 other teams.
TRUE.

No credit on that front. Sorry.

This is where I stand. Geno hasn't even played a down worth a damn yet (regular season game), and people are already calling for his demise.

Pretty knee-jerk if you ask me.

Mentally abused? No.

Outed every one of you as completely clueless?

Yes.

The need to be right is powerful on CP.

You sound like a spurned woman. Seriously.

You clearly weren't around, ****stick.

The Geno Mafia stated that Geno was worthy of 1.1 and would be a GREAT QB. If Chiefs passed on him, some members said they'd leave forever. Others said they'd become a "Fan" of his new team.

It was ****ing bullshit.

The guy wasn't and isn't NFL Ready. He wasn't worthy of 1.1 or being drafted in the first round. He can't read a defense, he can't handle pressure, he's a poor leader and makes bad downfield decisions.

He *may* become an average to above average QB someday but he's clearly not ready to lead an NFL team.

Got it? Now, **** off.

I know.
Its one of the things I hate the most about this place.
A lot of time its in defense because people absolutely will not let you have an opinion that doesnt fall in line with the group think and constantly barrage you with shit.
Thats what happened when Dane said Geno wasnt worth a 1st rounder.
He turned out to be right, and they STILL beat that drum.

This is true.
Its actually caused some here to become Jets fans.
How pathetic is that?

Preach on brother Dane!

Who's a Jets fan? Not me.

You certainly don't sound like a Chief's fan Sweet Uncle Touched Me Behind the Toolshed.

And my thoughts on why he will fail in New York, has nothing to do with him.

It has to do with the lack of talent around him, the instability in the coaching staff, and the disconnect between the front office and coaching staff.

It is unfair to Geno. Its unfair to the players on the team really.

I feel bad for the kid.

Following and hoping for success=fan.

I know its real confusing.

I'm excited about Bray and the new direction of our defense. Alex Smith is completely uninspiring. Sorry.

Success for the individual does not necessarily translate in to success for the group as a whole, even at the QB position. I'm sorry you do not grasp this.

By the time we know what we have with Bray Geno will be done. Also excited about Bray though.

I'm not a Geno guy.

I just like what he represents, which is an organization drafting and developing their Qb. That's what I want the Chiefs to do.

I'm a Chiefs fan bro, you are going all blue on blue on me (friendly fire).

As I said, Geno's situation is practically unwinnable. It would take Luck or RGIII to even begin to turn that shitpile around.

That said, NY's woes are not mine.

Bingo.

The Chiefs outdated philosophy is what pisses in my Cheerios, and has since forever.

<- your avatar represents change mister :D

Sure it is.

:rolleyes:

Andrew Luck went to a 2-14 team with 40% roster turnover.

Seems to me that turned out okay.

Geno cannot succeed without the Jets having success.

Say it with me

J E.....

Of course it did. Did I not mention Luck/RGIII in the ****ing post, miss dense-all? JFC.:facepalm:

ALL QB drafted high go to shit situations. Its just built in excuses for Geno.

LMAO No, I will not.

You could have put Geno on the Pats or Pack. He would not have succeeded against NFL defenses.

I disagree.

LMAO

Of course you do, which is further proves you have absolutely NO eye for NFL talent, let alone, quarterbacks.