Really? Recent history we drafted Peters and Mahomes in the first and sounds like we were taking Jones at our original spot in 2016 if we didn't trade back. Theres at least talent there.

Here is what 2 of them look and smell like.

https://i.imgur.com/BgmnBcg.gif

Mahomes waves hello...:D

2nd and 3rd

That's about max I would go and every week that 3rd goes down a round.

Nah...let the Seahawks sweat it out until the trade deadline. It doesn't look good for them to dirty a player like Thomas...there is more at play than just picks.

If they think he is worth that much...they would have signed him already.

Look if a 2nd is what Peters is worth at his contract and age no freaking way is Thomas getting a 1st.

I was pretty against the idea when I think O city mentioned it a couple of weeks ago. But since then ive seen just how awful our safeties have been. Im also thinking Earl could be our Woodson, he seems pretty ageless.

That makes perfect sense, particularly the last sentence

But there might also be an element of the story about the Legion of Boom defense faction vs Russel Wilson culture war thing they had going on, at play here

Carroll may be ready to sweep that old era away no matter how good the guy is... cant have a pro-bowl naysayer shooting you down in the clubhouse

He has three times as many picks as the entire Chiefs defense combined.

Well said, Easy 6

Oh yeah that Russell Wilson division is real. They hate him.


I so wanted the Chiefs to take Russell Wilson instead of Jeff Allen but now Mahomes has changed my mind. I wouldn't want that headache and we got somebody better somehow.

Mahomes plays offense.

I notice you didn't mention Dee Ford or Eric Fisher.

Marcus Peters, regardless of talent, is a colossal failure by the entire organization. What a waste of a 1st rounder.

For me, it’s not just Josh Jackson.

It’s the fact that instead, we traded UP for Breeland ****ing Speaks

We've been talking about DEFENSE in this thread for 3 straight days. :facepalm:

Like it or not, Thomas doesn't have near the baggage Peters did/does.

He’s also 30 and needs a new deal before he will practice

He's not 30.

He's 29 and a malcontent.

If the Seahawks wanted Breeland Speaks for Thomas would you trade him?

If yes, then you would trade a 2nd round pick. Because that's the dude that Veach is going to use his 2nd on. Worthless, at least as of today.

I'll take Eric Reid and keep my 1, 2, 2, 3 rounders next year, thanks. oh, and a lawsuit against the league for collusion goes away if he signs a deal. AND-he can kneel all he wants to when the special song plays. The magic sky cloth can freedom without him, no problem.

If that were a realistic option it's my #1 option. I take Reid for no picks and a super cheap salary for sure.

Unfortunately, sky cloth.

Reid is a small linebacker

Thomas is a center field turnover causing badass

Eric Reid plays a completely different position.

Not going to happen. Eric Reid is tainted, and nobody will even touch him. Even that, he plays at a different position.

I'd go 2nd and a 4th.

or if they are hell bent on a 1st I'd consider a 1st for Thomas and 2nd and a 5th or something.

The trade must include a contract extension though.

"Nobody" meaning prejudice owners and GM's who don't care about injustice? :rolleyes:

Every week that goes by, the price goes down. Keep winning games, keep letting Seattle implode. Eventually, you’ll get him for a fourth. Dallas’ season will be unsalvageable.

Unfortunately some people are very bothered by this.

do not start this shit in this threa

Like it matters what any of us think about Eric Reid. He's been effectively blackballed by the NFL. It is what it is.

Gotcha so what I'm hearing is we need both

Eric Reid replacing Terrance Smith would be pretty sick LMAO

You are right. I hope he wins his lawsuit. That's all I will say on that.

Well then folks shouldn't say Reid is "tainted" like the man did something wrong when it's actually the opposite.

Take that shit to DC.

Not it my OP...I merely stated that 1st round picks are gold due to 5 years of cheap labor. I wasn't talking about only the Chiefs..

I was implying that nobody is giving up a 1st for Thomas...and the only teams that would pick him up at his age/contract demands/position would be a team in contention that has a real need. (Chiefs) I highly doubt ET wants to spend his final years wasting away on a bad team..

I cant see Dallas going that direction...but they are poorly run so who knows. I think Seattle would like to move him out of the NFC too..

Raiders/Donks (random example) aren't going to pay $50 million when they are years away from being truly competitive.

This. All of it.

Does TJ Ward have anything left? Atleast he would know where to line up unlike Murray

Is ET a Chief yet? Chronic redundancy ensues.

No kidding. And he’d at least bust some heads.

The guy that broke the Watkins deal spot on just told me it could be true


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Told it could actually be true. Chiefs have been seeking a safety upgrade all offseason.</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1044761483370999810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Here's the original tweet about ET to KC
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Right now the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> are working on a contract for Earl Thomas, a source tells me they are close, very close. The reports of the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> somewhat interested is really a contract negotiation. We will have an answer by the end of the week, I’m told he could play as soon as game 5!</p>&mdash; CHIEFS365 @CHIEFS #Chiefskingdom TO THE SB (@Chiefs365Com) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs365Com/status/1044751725796634625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this can be real life?

If this is true then the compensation has been agreed upon!

I won’t believe it until I see it.

These ****ers better not be wrong.

Lol not buying it at all

It is can be maybe.

U dun did gewd on Mahomes, what say you?

I'd do a 2nd and 4th at max. Sign him to an extension and know that this will likely be Eric Berry's final year in KC. You can't have that much tied up at safety and as much as I love EB, he needs to retire and save what is left of his body.

I asked him about certain safeties and he was spot on months ago. So we’ll see. There’s a lot of smoke around this. Veach is very aggressive. If Dorsey was at the helm, I’d be more hesitant

Here’s another guy saying he heard on Sirius XM that they’re working on a contract.

https://twitter.com/alan_covington/s...677545472?s=21

Hell, trade them that stupid ****ing "loudest outdoor stadium" record we hold.

I could definitely see KC wanting to get this done quickly. Extra day to prep for Denver. Big game they could win and put a strangle hold on the division

ROFL.

a third and our Guinness record plaque for your safety

Right! Veach was all in on Mahomes and wanted Watkins last year and persevered to get him now. Hope Thomas is in the same boat. The morale boost to the D alone would be huge.

What makes Veach so much more aggressive than Dorsey?
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We might have to promise to not try and break it for a set number of years. Perhaps as long as Earl is on the team.

OMG!!!!

I hear the hold up is deciding who gets to wear #29....:)

Man I hope this is true.

It ain't happening , He's came out and said he practices when he wants to. If he's got a headache or his body doesn't feel like it he's not doing it. I don't think these guys will go for that .

I’m starting to BELIEVE

That is because they won't commit to him after this season

Um, that's because he's in Seattle. He's not going to pull the same stuff for the team he's traded to. :facepalm:

We don't have Berry. We have some homeless looking guy who's been standing on the sideline for over a year.

Not a question.

Berry

Well if Alan Covington tweeted it out and a caller on Sirius XM says it, then it must be a fact.

You know that's because they aren't paying him right? He's pushing back because they are ****ing him over.

If Thomas is traded and given a new deal he will be a model employee I guarantee it. He'll probably also make some comments about how great it is to be wanted and appreciated.

With the way our offense is playing, if we can get one or two plays a game that result in a stopped possession for the other team, that is a huge deal. I’m willing to bet that most of our losses will be less than 7 pts. We don’t need to keep teams at 20 pts or less to win a ton of games. We just need one less scoring possession for opponents from here on out.

Get dirty Dan back and EB in late November for a playoff run. Profit...

He wants out of Seattle badly, this is the reverse Peters

Maybe we can benefit from a situation like that, it equals things out nicely... poetic justice

Exactly. Eric Berry is one of my favorite Chiefs ever but he can't help this team standing on the sideline. Earl Thomas makes this team an even stronger contender. They need to get it done.

How are we going to sign Fuller, Jones and DAT if we trade for Earl! :)

The Chiefs are a natural trade partner. Everybody’s in the NFL knows we need help on defense. We have the extra 2nd rounder. We got the money next year to begin paying him as the highest paid Safety in the NFL.

If true, they have already agreed on the draft pick or picks.

Yes!

Is it that he doesn't want to risk getting hurt on the final year of his contract, and thus lose out on more money? I'm just trying to understand it from his perspective on all this.

Our corners aren't any worse than the rest of our defense. The problem is our linebackers have been dog shit. Hitchens and Ragland have been definitely below average. Very disappointing. Quite honestly since game 1 - Scandrick has been better than I thought and Fuller hasn't been quite as advertised but still a good corner. Xavier Williams has been a let down. I thought Chris Jones would take a big step forward and that hasn't happened yet. Justin Houston is still the best player on the defense but he hasn't dominated. Dee Ford was probably playing the 2nd best and he's now hurt. Parker and Murray have been below average. Can't blame it all on the CB's, though.

Well we are a lot closer to Texas than Seattle is so that's a good compromise right?

Veach is more eager to trade picks for players