Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16303895)

Gore broke off a run against some backups.

Again, I'm no CEH fan, not stanning for him here. I'm just going against the "doesn't break long runs" narrative. I just don't care too much about it. It's why, to me, RB's 40 times don't really matter to awful much.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16303893)

I understand the sentiment but you've got nearly $200m in cap space to spend.

You'd have let Kelce walk? Tyreek? You wouldn't have brought in Mathieu? Brown Jr? Thuney?

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16303901)

The same people that complain about CEH’s lack of speed don’t see the appeal/value in giving RoJo a shot on a 1 year prove it deal.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16303904)

I'd have done exactly what they did with Tyreek.

Kelce is a unicorn. I don't think he's ever actually been paid what he is worth.

Bringing in Brown Jr. and paying him elite LT money for average LT pay are two different things. Yes, I would have brought in Orlando Brown. I would NOT be working to pay him top 5 at his position, when he isn't a top 15 player.

Joe Thuney would have been - as I believe it was for Veach - a mandate from the owner. Up to me, absolutely not do I ever want to pay top dollar for a guard. Draft guys, extend them before they are in the last year of their deal, or trade them away.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16303867)

I think they could retain anyone they want to. I'm saying I don't think that spending big money on a RB is a prudent use of our limited resources. For that reason, I don't think it's smart to invest in the position heavily.

Best case scenario, you burn a high pick on a RB and he exceeds expectations. Four or five years later you've earned the right to sign him to a $17m AAV deal just as he's leaving his prime..? Not a good deal most times. We've seen that play out with literally every big money contract handed out to elite RBs over the last 5 years or so. Every time, people say "well this time is different". They did that with Zeke, then Bell, then it happened with CMC. Every time, the guy doesn't really live up to the hype.

Like O.city said, churn 'em and burn 'em. Get your four-ish years out of the guy then let someone else pay him.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16303904)

I'd have done exactly what they did with Tyreek.

Kelce is a unicorn. I don't think he's ever actually been paid what he is worth.

Bringing in Brown Jr. and paying him elite LT money for average LT pay are two different things. Yes, I would have brought in Orlando Brown. I would NOT be working to pay him top 5 at his position, when he isn't a top 15 player.

Joe Thuney would have been - as I believe it was for Veach - a mandate from the owner. Up to me, absolutely not do I ever want to pay top dollar for a guard. Draft guys, extend them before they are in the last year of their deal, or trade them away.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16303901)

The same people that complain about CEH’s lack of speed don’t see the appeal/value in giving RoJo a shot on a 1 year prove it deal.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16303924)

This is absurd. Orlando Brown is easily a top 15 LT.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16303933)

I can see the "not top 5" argument. That's fine.

But not in the best 15 LT's? I dont' see 14 better.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 16303935)

The Chiefs could have had Barry Sanders the last 2 seasons and it wouldn't have mattered. Fact is, the Chiefs have been a pass-first team, and Mahomes is a down field passer.

Little checkdowns. Not many run plays. Previously had a shitty run blocking Line, built for pass protection.

CEH and any scrub on this offense COULD potentially have a great numbers year, but it's really up to Reid/Bienemy and Mahomes to make it happen. We've seen success from a scrub like Gore, and we saw some beastmode from McKinnon.... but then the Chiefs offense goes away from those plays.

Personally I think this offense is going to mature this year and start mixing in the RB more considering the way defenses have adapted to our downfield attack. I hope I am right.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 16303944)

Kareem Hunt says hello.

Having an upgrade at RB would definitely make a difference in this offense. Fact is, CEH isn't that good and neither are the other RBs we have so it's been holding this offense back.

But yes Reid teams are generally always pass first, second, with running plays never being a major focus but to act like RB is a position that doesn't matter in this offense is taking it too far...