Actually, no. Since conference play began, Ellis has a higher defensive win share than Mason.

Total win shares in conference

Ellis: 1.5
Graham: 1.2
Mason: 0.7
Selden: 0.6
Lucas: 0.6

I don't believe I've ever called Perry Ellis the worst KU player ever (or even a bad player). He'll undoubtedly find a pro basketball job in Europe, for example. He is, however, just a very flawed one who will hold KU back as long as he's a primary core player.

This shouldn't come as any surprise for anybody that has watched the team and Mason struggle horribly after December. Perry Ellis was definitely the team's best player in January overall (although it's no coincidence that the team had one of their worst months in the Self era simultaneously).

This thread has become a Conference Realignment esque cesspit.

Mason has continued to do what he does every year. He beats up on tomato cans in the non con and then gets exposed by legit PGs who are bigger, faster, stronger, and more skilled than he is.

If only we had a sample that countered that narrative. Oh wait, that was just last season when Mason was quite good in conference play (2.2 WS, .146 WS/48) and nothing like the physical wreck he's been so far this year during the same time period (0.7 WS, .077 WS/48).

This is the kind of fire that's getting me pumped for tonight! :cuss:

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If KCConnect was able to ban more people who disagreed with him, we wouldn't be in crisis. Plus, he could post another 844x about how bad Perry Ellis is.

How many Triple Overtime games have their been at AFH? You can probably count them on your spare fingers as well.

Bill Self era (with the "Perry Ellis as primary core player" period bolded)

2003–04 (Season), 24–9 (overall record), 12–4 T-2 (conference record/standing), Elite Eight (tournament result), 16 (KenPom rank)
2004–05, 23–7, 12–4 T-1 First Round, 13
2005–06, 25–8, 13–3 T-1, First Round, 8
2006–07, 33–5, 14–2 1, Elite Eight, 5
2007–08, 37–3, 13–3 T-1, National Champions, 1
2008–09, 27–8, 14–2 1, Sweet Sixteen, 10
2009–10, 33–3, 15–1 1, Second Round, 2
2010–11, 35–3, 14–2 1, Elite Eight, 2
2011–12, 32–7, 16–2 1, National Runners-up, 4
2012–13, 31–6, 14–4 T-1, Sweet Sixteen, 8
2013–14, 25–10 14–4 1, Second Round, 12
2014–15, 27–9, 13–5 1, Second Round, 14
2015-16, 19-4, 7-3 T-2, TBD, 10

There's little question that the Perry Ellis era has coincided with the weakest period of the Self era (and if they lose the conference title, which they are on pace to do, and have another early exit in March, it will further confirm that). The only time even comparable was the two season stretch from 2003-04 to 2004-05, although we're now pushing into three full seasons of this (relative) weak period now. I doubt that's any coincidence, just like I doubt it was any coincidence that one of the worst months for KU we've seen in a while came when Perry Ellis clearly surpassed Mason as this team's best player this past January.

Just wait for the shitstorm that will begin anew once KU actually loses a game (and it's going to happen on Saturday if it doesn't happen tonight). At that point, it won't just be only you and your lackey trolling me, Self, Svi, Mason or whoever your latest target will be.

Perry was a freshman in 12 13

Yes, he was a role player off the bench, though. EJ, McLemore, Withey, and Releford were the primary guys that season. My point was in reference to the period where Ellis has been a 30-minute-a-game primary core player.