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The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558515)
pestillencia


by the way for a history lesson I drafted chris Johnson for kr pr and hopefully to challenge as a running back to dangelo williams.

pestilenceaf23 not pestillencia.

And it's not like you drafted him for the Titans. Chris Johnson is the perfect compliment to the Lendale White. You have no clue if he would work out splitting time with DeAngelo Williams. They are the exact same type of RB.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5558521)
Here you go.

I'm not sure why he's pimping that CJ pick.

He didn't fit with the Panthers at all.

Just because the kid excelled with the Titans doesn't make him a good pick for a team that needed a bruiser at RB.

The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558509)
I do my homework guys I know alot about guys in the draft every year.

Here is your homework.

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 4640797)
I' m starting to lose faith in our front office we may have on our hand the worst team in the NFL.

If we don't draft good here gentleman and ladies this could set us back two or three years. I"m not trrying to freak people out but I don't like what i'm hearing from herm and company.

we are gonna build our team through the draft. Are we starting a bunch of rookies then???

The way this draft is gonna fall is scaring me too . I 'm starting to think jake long doesn't make it to us.

Then what do we do trade down? Draft best available? Reach for Need?

some of these mocks have us reaching for OTah or Claddy personally I hate both these picks. Otah is too high in his stance it scares the crap out of me that he could be bull rushed. Cladly has no heart that is a scary proposition too. He half speeds it.

so we don't take O line what do we do take McKelvin? great athelete returner but as it's been said on here many times cb's are not important to the cover 2. So who does that leave?

ryan ? if we draft him I could be done with this team for a while. I think he is overated I think he isn't as good as his press clippings suggest. Maybe not as bad as blackledge but i see as a pretty good qb. I'm sorry with the fith pick he better be elway, or manning, or bledsowe type franchise qb. Not when we could get brennan, brohm, or henne later who will probably be better qbs than him eventually. :thumb:

so now we go DT? yes we need depth there but how the heck do we know what we have in tyler or McBride yet?

personally I go best available talent hopefully on Offense but if not D is good.

this team is not good enough to pass on playmakers if someone is there that is a game changing player we have to take them no matter what position.

this is just my opinion sorry if some disagree


chiefscafan 03-05-2009 05:53 PM

i was drafting for the panthers dude it was who my team was I hadn't really seen enough in dangelo to not take a chance on johnson I saw you tube and read reviews on him. The more I watched the more I saw LT in him. I said this is a major steal I need to do it so I did. For an undersized back he didn't do that bad did he?

The Franchise 03-05-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558533)
i was drafting for the panthers dude it was who my team was I hadn't really seen enough in dangelo to not take a chance on johnson I saw you tube and read reviews on him. The more I watched the more I saw LT in him. I said this is a major steal I need to do it so I did. For an undersized back he didn't do that bad did he?

He didn't do that bad on a different team then what you drafted him for.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558523)
ok but hamas you sound like the fan that won't ever be happy. This is reguarded as one of the brilliant minds in the NFL. We aren't talking about Carl Petterson here. I question the haley hiring a little and the non activity in free agency is bugging me but I think we are gonna be alot better than some people are giving us credit for. IF its blind faith then label me a pioli follower I 'm willing to give him a chance why will none of the rest of u do this I'm just currious.

That "brilliant mind" has selected the following players as well:

Lawrence Maroney, Kareem Brown, Clint Oldenberg, Chad Jackson, etc.

He makes mistakes. There's nothing wrong with questioning his decisions. Hell, ask Amnorix how many times he was left scratching his head after a Pioli decision.

Just because he's better than Carl ****ing Peterson doesn't make him perfect, or impervious to criticism.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558523)
ok but hamas you sound like the fan that won't ever be happy. This is reguarded as one of the brilliant minds in the NFL. We aren't talking about Carl Petterson here. I question the haley hiring a little and the non activity in free agency is bugging me but I think we are gonna be alot better than some people are giving us credit for. IF its blind faith then label me a pioli follower I 'm willing to give him a chance why will none of the rest of u do this I'm just currious.

I'm not giving the guy blind faith because he's never done it as the guy.

He's not Bill Polian.

He deserves a bit of skepticism.

So far, every major move he's made I've disagreed with.

I hate the move to a 3-4
I didn't like the Haley hire
I despise putting all of our eggs in the Cassel basket.

I was happy when we hired him, but I'm not going to let that overshadow what I feel are poor decisions.

chiefscafan 03-05-2009 05:57 PM

wow that's awesome that you can call back on old stuff I said. I wasn't the only one wrong about Ryan alot of people misscalculated.


but what about the part you didn't highlight?

the we are gonna start alot of young guys and I don't feel comfortable with herm or carl's plan. Hmmm I was way off there huh.

everyone makes mistakes and missreads it's called being human but I wasn't far off on the prediction of this team last year.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 05:59 PM

The shoe is on the other foot now, and someone doesn't care for it...

The Franchise 03-05-2009 06:02 PM

The other part I didn't highlight? Like this?

"some of these mocks have us reaching for OTah or Claddy personally I hate both these picks. Otah is too high in his stance it scares the crap out of me that he could be bull rushed. Cladly has no heart that is a scary proposition too. He half speeds it."

chiefscafan 03-05-2009 06:03 PM

I can't back track what all of you have said so it's not really fair but oh well I'll admit I'm not perfect. However I am dead on some statements that I 'm not getting credit for. But if you only want to pull up old statements that make me look bad keep doing it. YOu are showing how petty you are. I just want to talk football like I have since 2001.

When I get attacked it's just juvinile I think you all are gonna look real bad when sanchez isn't as great as all of you think he will be.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-05-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 5558375)
I thought you'd never ask. Right now we would like to trade down to as far as the 11 slot. The difficulty here being that we don't see many teams offering book value for our pick. The flip side of that is that we don't see a significant drop in potential player productivity between the players available at the 3rd pick than we do with the ones available at 11. Because of that we are willing to make the trade for something slightly less than book value. We feel like this team has so many needs (NT, OLB, DE, RT, C, WR) that we can get a great player in picks 4-11 just as we can at 3. Also the difference in salary that pick 11 will command vs. pick 3 will also be a determining factor in our ability to take slightly less than book value for the pick.

In summation we would be happ with a number of players, for instance if we trade with the Jags we could go WR, DE, NT, OLine and get a great player, potentially even the one we really want at the 3rd spot.

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5558400)
Then explain to me why anyone would want to trade up with us. Why trade up if the contract is going to be huge and you can stay put and get the same quality of player?

Pest just asked the magic question. But it was still a great post. Welcome to the board, you definitely sound like you have some football acumen. I think you'll be a welcome addition.

Direckshun 03-05-2009 06:05 PM

I am loving this thread.

There is a very definitive difference in maturity between those in this mock and those not in it.

If that doesn't verify OTW's methodology, nothing does.

The Franchise 03-05-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5558554)
I can't back track what all of you have said so it's not really fair but oh well I'll admit I'm not perfect. However I am dead on some statements that I 'm not getting credit for. But if you only want to pull up old statements that make me look bad keep doing it. YOu are showing how petty you are. I just want to talk football like I have since 2001.

When I get attacked it's just juvinile I think you all are gonna look real bad when sanchez isn't as great as all of you think he will be.

It's juvenile? Juvenile like coming in and repeatedly calling out someone's picks? Because it seems to me like you've only called out Hamas so far.

I'm only bringing up your old posts for two reasons.

1. You whined about not being chosen for this mock.
2. You claim that people talked shit about your picks when we didn't.

chiefscafan 03-05-2009 06:05 PM

No this part



I' m starting to lose faith in our front office we may have on our hand the worst team in the NFL.

If we don't draft good here gentleman and ladies this could set us back two or three years. I"m not trrying to freak people out but I don't like what i'm hearing from herm and company.

we are gonna build our team through the draft. Are we starting a bunch of rookies then???


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