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the Talking Can 02-20-2013 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9419467)
Come on, dude. We've been in position for several years now. The difference this year is that the #1 overall pick goes a long way to forcing an organization's hand.

This is the 4th top-5 pick for the Chiefs in the last 6 years, and some people still question the wisdom of drafting a legit QB.

Un****ingreal.
sure...i should have said 'first no-excuses-what-so-ever position to draft a QB'

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9419453)
first real chance we have to draft a QB in 30 years...


it just scares the shit out of some people
If you're referring to me in particular, you couldn't be more wrong.

I'd love to see the Chiefs take a QB #1 overall. What I don't like is being told, repeatedly and ad nauseam, by the same forum members that ONE GUY is THE GUY.

Even though every paid scout, talent evaluator and the Chiefs GM, at this point, feel there IS no guy worthy of the #1 overall pick, and many feel there is no true first round talent available in the 2013 draft.

Taking a guy in the first doesn't make him a first round talent.

The Chiefs should have traded their entire draft in 2012 for RGIII. And if that would work, they should have drafted Tannehill or Wilson.

Instead, they're faced with an uncertain future and will likely select someone not worthy of first round grade, let alone, #1 overall.

DeezNutz 02-20-2013 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9419472)
sure...i should have said 'first no-excuses-what-so-ever position to draft a QB'
No doubt. Has to happen.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9419467)
Come on, dude. We've been in position for several years now. The difference this year is that the #1 overall pick goes a long way to forcing an organization's hand.

This is the 4th top-5 pick for the Chiefs in the last 6 years, and some people still question the wisdom of drafting a legit QB.

Un****ingreal.
If there's a "Legit QB", by all means, they should take him.

RealSNR 02-20-2013 03:25 PM
Dane, you wouldn't happen to be distantly related to Joseph McCarthy, would you?

MagicHef 02-20-2013 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9419256)
Over-drafting a QB in the first round doesn't make him worthy of being a first round QB.
True.

However, it doesn't seem to matter. Was Weeden worthy of being a first round QB? Tannehill? McNown? Druckenmiller? Mirer? Sanchez? Russell? Smith? Losman? Grossman? Quinn? VY? Leftwich? Leinart? Dilfer?

In terms of win percentage, their teams all improved coinciding with their drafting.

Meanwhile, here are some guys whose teams got worse once they were drafted: Ryan Clady, Bryant McKinnie, Shawn Andrews, Leonard Davis.

RealSNR 02-20-2013 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9419571)
True.

However, it doesn't seem to matter. Was Weeden worthy of being a first round QB? Tannehill? McNown? Druckenmiller? Mirer? Sanchez? Russell? Smith? Losman? Grossman? Quinn? VY? Leftwich? Leinart? Dilfer?

In terms of win percentage, their teams all improved coinciding with their drafting.

Meanwhile, here are some guys whose teams got worse once they were drafted: Ryan Clady, Bryant McKinnie, Shawn Andrews, Leonard Davis.
Don't forget Branden Albert and Glenn Dorsey.

MagicHef 02-20-2013 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9419612)
Don't forget Branden Albert and Glenn Dorsey.
I was trying to list good players.

Sorter 02-20-2013 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9419628)
I was trying to list good players.
Albert is a good player...

RealSNR 02-20-2013 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9419628)
I was trying to list good players.
Ha. Nice. I'm going to have to think of another sig bet to make with you. I'm not sure where Terrance Copper stands with the new Dorsey/Reid administration, so his time on this roster may not be for long. The clock is ticking if you still want Copper swag.

MagicHef 02-20-2013 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9419650)
Ha. Nice. I'm going to have to think of another sig bet to make with you. I'm not sure where Terrance Copper stands with the new Dorsey/Reid administration, so his time on this roster may not be for long. The clock is ticking if you still want Copper swag.
If you think of one, let me know. I'd like to try my hand at a Jackson sig.

Or maybe LJ.

htismaqe 02-20-2013 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9419571)
True.

However, it doesn't seem to matter. Was Weeden worthy of being a first round QB? Tannehill? McNown? Druckenmiller? Mirer? Sanchez? Russell? Smith? Losman? Grossman? Quinn? VY? Leftwich? Leinart? Dilfer?

In terms of win percentage, their teams all improved coinciding with their drafting.

Meanwhile, here are some guys whose teams got worse once they were drafted: Ryan Clady, Bryant McKinnie, Shawn Andrews, Leonard Davis.
Donk fan, in with the logic.

:thumb:

:facepalm:

Sorter 02-20-2013 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9419697)
If you think of one, let me know. I'd like to try my hand at a Jackson sig.

Or maybe LJ.
That's just gross.

htismaqe 02-20-2013 04:03 PM
ROFL

Dane, the Martyr.

Dude, you're acting like a tool.

htismaqe 02-20-2013 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9419239)
All but Hasselbeck, Grossman and Warner.

If Smith takes his team to a championship game or Super Bowl by the end of his second season, the debate could be re-opened, depending on how that team was led.

But at this point in time, before the Combines, before the Draft, before training camp, etc. it's just damn silly to make these comparisons.
"COMING OUT OF COLLEGE"

You ****ing dope.


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