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DeezNutz 07-20-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9823512)
There was no better option available in the draft or free agency. They got the best guy they could, for essentially a second round pick.

Two of them, unless Dorsey fails at his job in year one.

It's very simple: I'm tired of taking someone's trash and saying that it's good enough for my team. Another organization, literally, looked at Alex Smith and said, "We have to improve."

But the Chiefs, predictably, don't seem to agree. **** that. I've seen it before, and I know how this bullshit ends. And so do you.

BigMeatballDave 07-20-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9823517)
Two of them, unless Dorsey fails at his job in year one.

It's very simple: I'm tired of taking someone's trash and saying that it's good enough for my team. Another organization, literally, looked at Alex Smith and said, "We have to improve."

But the Chiefs, predictably, don't seem to agree. **** that. I've seen it before, and I know how this bullshit ends. And so do you.

Yeah, the Saints made a horrible mistake acquiring Drew Brees...

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-20-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9823404)
I think it's almost a lock that he gets extended because Reid and Dorsey brought him in because they actually valued what Alex Smith has been the last two years. They looked at those results and thought, "That's good enough."

This should scare the **** out of everyone.

If 8-8 gets this guy the fat payday, it's time to just close up shop.

Which brings me to:

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9823464)
I don't if there's enough data available to state that the current board and Chairman share the same view as their father.

From my perspective, Clark has performed admirably in firing Peterson, firing Pioli and staff before his contract expired and in changing the organizational structure of the franchise.

He hired the best available head coach and a coveted front office man as GM. The coaching staff is certainly the best and most successful since the Vermeil era, if not the Schottenheimer era.

I'm not sure how much more change people expected in less than five months.
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Change for the sake of change doesn't mean much to me in regards to the Chiefs. The problem, as I see it, is this; I don't see Clark Hunt as a "football guy". Not at all. I see a man who is more concerned with his father's legacy than a man who eats, sleeps, lives, and breathes the game of football. I see Hunt as a guy who hires guys like Dorsey and Reid, and tells them, "well if there's a problem, YOU figure it out; that's what I'm paying you for". I'm not saying the man isn't "hands-on", but if I owned a team, I guarantee you I would know more about upcoming coordinators, managers, and coaches than what I could glean from my owner-buddies at the once-a-year round table meeting.
Your business is either your passion or it isn't. And in the case of KC; it shows.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-20-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9823521)
Yeah, the Saints made a horrible mistake acquiring Drew Brees...

You did NOT just ****ing compare...no you didn't.

tredadda 07-20-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9823464)
I don't if there's enough data available to state that the current board and Chairman share the same view as their father.

From my perspective, Clark has performed admirably in firing Peterson, firing Pioli and staff before his contract expired and in changing the organizational structure of the franchise.

He hired the best available head coach and a coveted front office man as GM. The coaching staff is certainly the best and most successful since the Vermeil era, if not the Schottenheimer era.

I'm not sure how much more change people expected in less than five months.
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Apparently the next Peyton Manning in spite of the fact no one even remotely close to his talent was even in this draft.

keg in kc 07-20-2013 04:31 PM

I'd much rather have a hands-off owner who hires good people and lets them do their job.

I just wish we'd stop hiring retread head coaches and overpaying for retread QBs.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-20-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9823530)
I'd much rather have a hands-off owner who hires good people and lets them do their job.

No one wants Jerry Jones, but there has to a balance between the two extremes.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-20-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9823530)
I'd much rather have a hands-off owner who hires good people and lets them do their job.

I just wish we'd stop hiring retread head coaches and overpaying for retread QBs.

And that starts with INFORMED, PASSIONATE ownership.

DeezNutz 07-20-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9823530)
I'd much rather have a hands-off owner who hires good people and lets them do their job.

I just wish we'd stop hiring retread head coaches and overpaying for retread QBs.

It's different this time, I swear.

tredadda 07-20-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9823511)
The problem is that his YPA is complete misinformation.

He's not a guy who throws the ball down the field.

He was near the bottom of the league in yards per completion.

It's real easy to prop up a mediocre QB with completion percentage and QB rating.

Meanwhile he's still only producing 190 yards a game (or less).

Alex Smith is fool's gold.

I could care less if he throws for 100 yards a year if he wins. He doesn't need to throw 60 yard bombs if throwing a 10 yard out works. Our last QB could do neither.

tredadda 07-20-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9823530)
I'd much rather have a hands-off owner who hires good people and lets them do their job.

I just wish we'd stop hiring retread head coaches and overpaying for retread QBs.

Like most of the NFL is doing? Pete Carroll is a retread and seems to be working out pretty good in Seattle.

DeezNutz 07-20-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9823541)
I could care less if he throws for 100 yards a year if he wins. He doesn't need to throw 60 yard bombs if throwing a 10 yard out works. Our last QB could do neither.

No. When he was protected to the hilt and played everything safe, our last QB was a "Pro-Bowler."

The NFL is no longer pass to score, run to win. If you cannot throw the ball often and effectively, you have no chance. Thus, it's foolish to claim that Smith will win without posting, at the very least, good statistics.

BigMeatballDave 07-20-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9823527)
You did NOT just ****ing compare...no you didn't.

Yes, you are that ****ing stupid to think I compared Smith to Brees.

mlyonsd 07-20-2013 04:37 PM

The season can't come quick enough.

keg in kc 07-20-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9823536)
And that starts with INFORMED, PASSIONATE ownership.

Out of fairness, he also hired Haley. So he has gone outside the box. Although I've never thought he was who we really wanted in 2009.


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