So I'm fairly new to this site even though I've been posting since the old KC Star days. I find it disappointing to see that some of the same old schtick from back in those days still is true today:

Some posters exist to find doom and gloom in any situation. That's their thing. It's never good enough. It reminds me of Ravens fans and I hate it.

On a day like today? This thread disgusts me, even if Fisher is playing poorly which he is. He's a freakin rookie in his third game in a new position and was described as a high-ceiling project from the beginning. Joeckel is actually playing worse.

You guys have zero patience. See: Jackson, Tyson. Poe, Dontari.

And Poe also wasn't the 1.1 pick.

At #11 you might take a shot on a guy that shows huge upside but has a lot of questions. That's what happened and it has paid off. Ten guys went ahead of Poe.

At 1.1, Fisher was deemed the BEST prospect in the entire draft by this organization. He should at least not make an ass of himself every game.

There's still plenty of time. The book isn't written for the guy, but his start is very troubling considering he was the best collegiate player available apparently.

Tyson Jackson still sucks given he was the 3rd overall pick.

We can't afford to wait three years for this guy to be decent at his job like Jackson. If we're going to win this year, we need to keep Alex Smith upright. And it would be nice if our elite running back could run to the right side of the field as well.

He's been thrown into the fire and needs to catch up quick, but that's what 1.1 picks are expected to do anymore.

It's not all doom and gloom. You can't say the guy is done already; but you can point out that regardless of this being the third game of his rookie season, that a guy with this sort of talent should and can look a whole lot better.

Die, dumbass

He made a good block on the 3rd down run where Charles went full LJ and ran into the back of the line.

But on balance, he's been hot garbage. He's gotten to the point where he's bad enough to impact plays that are being run away from him. When you're so bad that we can't even scheme to hide you, then you need to come off the field.

Stephenson will outperform him by a large margin and Stephenson wasn't exactly a nothing pick when he was made. If Fisher doesn't make strides in the Giants game, I think you have to go with Stephenson for the good of the guys on the roster.

He could get Smith or Charles hurt playing like this. That's unacceptable.

Fisher is going to be fine. I don't give a shit that he has been sucking, because we've been winning without him being elite. He will adjust to the pro game. He will get stronger and he will learn better technique for dealing with professional athletes and not pre-med students in the MAC.

No one cares if you think he should have been dominant in his first game. That's meaningless. Completely meaningless.

What matters is the long-term success of the team.

Show me where I said dominant or elite. Nobody cares if you want to make excuses for the guy. He is going to be an important part to the long-term success of this team; and he should look better than this.

I love that you think where a guy was drafted affects the quality of his performance four years later.

"That sack isn't worth the same amount! He was a first rounder! That other guy got a sack and he was a sixth rounder! Therefore he's a better player!"

God you people are myopic.

You just said both! :p

****er.

Fisher is playing well. He got beat twice last night. Once by Fletcher Cox and once on a delayed DB blitz. The DB blitz was not his fault at all. It was a really good play call. Look at what we did to Joeckel and Johnson guys? We got the best OT in the draft. This guy is already a solid "B" grade player imo and he will only get better.

He had been about average this year. Him and Dorsey both sucked ass for the most part their entire careers inspite of how patient fans where with them. Yes, I noticed how you left Dorsey out to try to make your point.

He should look better, absolutely. But if the planet evaluation is not limited to his play on the field. Where he was drafted is being taken into consideration when evaluating him, and that is neither reasonable nor logical.

You can bitch about drafting him that high, but you can't say he sucks MORE because he was drafted high, and that's what people are doing.

I don't disagree the guy is struggling badly. I just hate the irrational reaction.

I'll admit; when Fisher first came out I expected him to impose his will from the get-go. After the first three weeks, I just want him to be average and build from there.