Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11635621)

This is the funniest thing I've ever argued in my life.

Russell Wilson is guaranteed $31.7M to play for the Seahawks in 2015. It's simply not debatable.

He is guaranteed nothing beyond that. However, if he's on the Hawks on the 5th day of the new league year in 2016, he is guaranteed another $12.5M.

So, if you want to say that Russell Wilson signed a contract for $31.7M, you have to say that he agreed to a brand new deal that was a 1 year, $31.7M contract.

Because the only way he ONLY makes $31.7M is if he is cut before the 2016 season.

This isn't debatable. This is fact.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11635636)

That is correct.

They'd be absolutely wrecking their cap in the process of losing a Super Bowl champion QB with no heir apparent on the roster, though, so there's approximately .00000000000000001% chance of that happening.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11635657)

I think everyone gets that he gets his full 31.7 guarantee if he's cut. Just like Justin Houston would get his full 32.5 million if he's cut.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11635702)

So, when you say that he makes $31.7M guaranteed ... you realize that is for 1 year. If he makes the team (!!!!!) in year 2 (on the 5th day of the new league year), he gets another $12.5M GUARANTEED.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11635733)

What?

He'll receive $20 million in 2015 as guaranteed money.

He'll receive another $11.7 million in guarantees in 2016.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11635702)

So, when you say that he makes $31.7M guaranteed ... you realize that is for 1 year. If he makes the team (!!!!!) in year 2 (on the 5th day of the new league year), he gets another $12.5M GUARANTEED.

So painting his contract as a 5 year deal with $31.7M guaranteed is an incredibly ridiculous manipulation.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11635762)

You are 100% incorrect. He received a $31M signing bonus. He isn't being paid that up front. How ****ing dumb are you?

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11634071)

This $31.7M guaranteed you're tossing around is hilarious, though. He makes that THIS YEAR, alone. So it's a 1 year, brand new deal if that's really how you're looking at it. You do realize that, right?

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11635766)

....this is important stuff!!

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11635797)

He's receiving $20 million this year and the additional $11 million in the year 2016, but it's all a part of the guaranteed money for the 2015 season.

MINUTIAE!

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 11635775)

Is it legally possible for Seattle to not pay him more than the $31M? If so that is the total amount currently guaranteed.
Is that splitting hairs? Yep.
But as I think our resident contract attorneys may aver, fine tooth combs are required when looking at a K like this...

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11635804)

It's only minutiae if you disregard his bank account balance

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11635844)

You're keying on the fact that Hootie said he'd receive $31 million "this year". He'll receive the latter $11 million technically in the calendar year of 2016 but it is still a chunk of the payment due to him for the 2015 year.

This is the most trivial of arguments.