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Mecca 11-20-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13906715)
Show us all these penalties they're getting away with, and show us all the corresponding flags that are getting thrown against us for doing similar things.

Tony Dungy was even pointing the shit out man...

I also pointed out a couple and several others have been pointed out in the thread, to lazy to read it?

petegz28 11-20-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13906715)
Show us all these penalties they're getting away with, and show us all the corresponding flags that are getting thrown against us for doing similar things.

Are you ****ing serious? Are you going to pretend there wasn't a false start and hold by the same player on a TD play for the Rams?

And that's for starters...

Mecca 11-20-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13906716)
They "didn't see it", Mecca

That is just head in the sand bullshit, I don't wanna admit something so importan to me is ****ed up. It's why parents won't admit their kid is a drug addict even if they can see see. Well you know I've never seen him shoot up so he's fine.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:46 PM

Coschise, I will also say KC had a TON of calls go their way at home against Frisco and Denver. There is an obvious agenda to how games are called.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13906726)
Are you ****ing serious? Are you going to pretend there wasn't a false start and hold by the same player on a TD play for the Rams?

And that's for starters...

"Didn't see it" Just like Hunt and Kelce grabbed in the red zone leading to FGs against NE when they had like 3 TD drives from calls like that...

Fish 11-20-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13906697)
The conspiracy loons always point out the fact that we get called for a lot more penalties than our opponents, never considering the fact the we might actually commit more. By their logic if the penalties aren't even, then that's hard evidence of bias against us. Never considered is the simplest explanation, that we just happen to commit a lot of penalties.

We're way above the league average in almost every category of penalty, and many of these are pre-snap penalties, or other penalties like hands to the face that are not subjective.

The refs are not making our guys false start. They aren't making people jump offside. They don't force people's hands up into facemasks or get people to grab handfuls of receivers' jerseys.

If there's some massive bias here, show it. Show us all these penalties that are BS against us or getting ignored for our opponents. Rarely do you see that, mostly you just hear that it's impossible that a very disciplined team like the Patriots could have a game where they commit few penalties. No evidence, just the claim that they couldn't have done it. But since this is a massive conspiracy in every game, there should be a ton of specific examples of clearly false flags being thrown.

Of course, some things are missed in every game, whether the Chiefs are playing in that game or not. Some things like holding and PI are somewhat subjective. But we largely do not have an argument against the flags we are getting. Every time they show the replay it seems like the DB has an arm around a guy as he's coming out of his break or he's got a handful of jersey or he's in contact before the ball arrives and isn't playing the ball.

We've got a mediocre offensive line that's holding and getting a lot of false starts because they are undisciplined and not very good. We have a secondary that's getting a lot of holding and DPI because they are undisciplined and not very good. This really isn't hard to figure out.

Yup. KC has 17 false start penalties(most in NFL). 13 offensive holding(4th in NFL). 14 defensive holding(most in NFL). We're a sloppy undisciplined team right now. It's that simple. Compare that to somebody like NE, who is very disciplined. The refs aren't the deciding factor there. Not when you can look at the penalties overall and see the patterns.

Mecca 11-20-2018 12:50 PM

New Englands offensive line is untalented and grabby, yet they don't receive calls because well we know why.

staylor26 11-20-2018 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13906734)
Yup. KC has 17 false start penalties(most in NFL). 13 offensive holding(4th in NFL). 14 defensive holding(most in NFL). We're a sloppy undisciplined team right now. It's that simple. Compare that to somebody like NE, who is very disciplined. The refs aren't the deciding factor there. Not when you can look at the penalties overall and see the patterns.

Yea NE looked soooo disciplined tackling Kelce and Hunt in the red zone and still not being called for holding/PI

:rolleyes:

The evidence is out there. Those tweets were posted over and over. Keep pretending there’s no evidence though.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:52 PM

Anyone can be disciplined if they don't throw the ****ing flag. LA committed TWO of those fouls you rag on KC about on the same play and they called neither. NE was allowed to hogtie Ford, grab Kelce, grab Hill, grab Hunt, and NOTHING was CALLED

petegz28 11-20-2018 12:53 PM

the biggest BS calls and non-calls last night were:

The first DPI on the 2nd or 3rd play of the game. It wasn't even close to DPI
The first personal foul on the opening drive
The consistent blindness to the RT for LA moving early
The consistent bear hugging and holding by the Ram OL
The tipped pass that had to be challenged
The forward pass that was ruled a fumble
The block in the back on a punt return that never happened

staylor26 11-20-2018 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13906744)
the biggest BS calls and non-calls last night were:

The first DPI on the 2nd or 3rd play of the game. It wasn't even close to DPI
The first personal foul on the opening drive
The consistent blindness to the RT for LA moving early
The consistent bear hugging and holding by the Ram OL
The tipped pass that had to be challenged
The forward pass that was ruled a fumble
The block in the back on a punt return that never happened

Add Tyreek’s BS taunting and Peters taking off his helmet on the field yet no call.

That’s 9 examples that these butt****ing morons are ignoring because we got 1 or 2 calls ourselves.

Sounds fair.

Mecca 11-20-2018 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13906741)
Anyone can be disciplined if they don't throw the ****ing flag. LA committed TWO of those fouls you rag on KC about and they called neither. NE was allowed to hogtie Ford, grab Kelce, grab Hill, grab Hunt, and NOTHING was CALLED

You can tell me the Chiefs are undisciplined, you can tell me they commit penalties because the secondary isn't talented.

The problem is one word...CONSISTENCY. Most games really do give you the vibe that just like most parents with their kids, the teams have different rules. If you are wearing this jersey you can get away with more than a guy wearing this jersey.

Marcellus 11-20-2018 12:58 PM

I don’t blame the refs for the loss but to say they infuenced the game is accurate and ridiculous.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 12:58 PM

"Didn't see it" Fish and Cochise in unison...

Chiefnj2 11-20-2018 12:59 PM

Some teams get the benefit of the doubt because of star players. It doesn't mean it's a conspiracy to change games.

I also think some refs would rather eat a flag here and there rather than get yelled at an hour by someone like Belichick. That's one of my problems with Andy. Andy rarely loses his cool. Andy should have freaked out about the false starts, but he doesn't. If the tv shows Andy turning all shades of purple arguing about a call, it somewhat forces the announcers to talk about it and make it an issue. Tomlin will occasionally take one for the team and risk a fine , but Andy never will. If your head coach isn't going take a bullet then **** it don't expect anything to change.


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