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htismaqe 04-10-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15622308)
Like I said, I didn’t understand your point in the first place. I had already pointed out and agreed that there’s a reason they aren’t 1st rounders.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15622339)
Gotcha, my apologies.

No problem. I don’t always make the most sense.

kccrow 04-10-2021 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 15621962)
Somebody listened to the Simms podcast....

I did. I don't think Simms has enough lineman graded in the 1st though and I absolutely think Slater gets his shot at LT first whereas Simms doesn't.

Slater, if he can add some weight, had the potential to be Jason Peters.

I think Sam Cosmi is an absolute lock in the 1st and I think he goes before 25.

I think Spencer Brown is definitely a fringe 1 guy, whether a team looks at him as a LT or a RT.

Cosmi and Brown have insane athletic profiles and good tape as pass blockers. Teams will gamble on those traits more often than not and there are a lot of teams that need tackles.

This regardless of whether or not I think they are a top 32 player. Positional need and traits trump many of things.

kcbubb 04-11-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15622302)
The separation between everybody after the top 2-3 just isn’t enough to worry about it.

Then why would you be ok with taking a LT round 1? Reaching at 31 is not smart when one of these LTs will be available in the 2nd, maybe the third. I can’t understand the panic to take a project LT in round one that won’t be better than an experienced free agent in year 1.

kcbubb 04-11-2021 10:29 AM

Lance Zierlein Ratings

Only the 1st 4 are rated 1st rounders.

Penei Sewell
Rashawn Slater
Christian Darrisaw
Teven Jenkins
Alex Leatherwood
Stone Forsythe
Liam Eichenberg
Sam Cosmi
Dillon Radunz
Spencer Brown
Walker Little
Jaylon Moore
Brady Christensen
Josh Ball
Jalen Mayfield
James Hudson
Brenden Jaimes
D'ante Smith
Will Sherman
Tommy Doyle

Otter 04-11-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 15622806)
Lance Zierlein Ratings

Only the 1st 4 are rated 1st rounders.

Penei Sewell
Rashawn Slater
Christian Darrisaw
Teven Jenkins
Alex Leatherwood
Stone Forsythe
Liam Eichenberg
Sam Cosmi
Dillon Radunz
Spencer Brown
Walker Little
Jaylon Moore
Brady Christensen
Josh Ball
Jalen Mayfield
James Hudson
Brenden Jaimes
D'ante Smith
Will Sherman
Tommy Doyle

Protecting Patrick is priority 1 and replacing Sammy is 2 in my opinion. I still say Jenkins by some sort of Veach magic trick and I don't know enough about the receivers to make a call.

Coogs 04-11-2021 11:52 AM

I was kind of buying into the Walker Little hype, be he gets abused pretty bad in this game vs Notre Dame. Every offensive snap is in this one with Little being highlighted. Not the best, IMO.

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kcbubb 04-11-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 15622890)
Protecting Patrick is priority 1 and replacing Sammy is 2 in my opinion. I still say Jenkins by some sort of Veach magic trick and I don't know enough about the receivers to make a call.

None of the tackles available at 31 can protect mahomes day 1. You still need a stop gap.

Otter 04-11-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 15622936)
None of the tackles available at 31 can protect mahomes day 1. You still need a stop gap.

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Jenkins by some sort of Veach magic trick
Just spitballing but I'm guessing this is the direction where Veach goes.

The Franchise 04-11-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15622918)
I was kind of buying into the Walker Little hype, be he gets abused pretty bad in this game vs Notre Dame. Every offensive snap is in this one with Little being highlighted. Not the best, IMO.

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I’m literally 5 minutes in and I’ve yet to see him get “abused”.

Coogs 04-11-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15622959)
I’m literally 5 minutes in and I’ve yet to see him get “abused”.

Keep watching

kcbubb 04-11-2021 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15622981)
Keep watching

Oh wow... that’s bad. Really bad. How many sacks did he give up? Like 3 or 4? And he’s not physical in the run game either.

kcbubb 04-11-2021 01:21 PM

Spencer brown looks interesting here...

https://youtu.be/Uyqd_7ZdTgs

kcbubb 04-11-2021 01:32 PM

Some leatherwood video here... roche is quick!

https://youtu.be/ILXf90lOKqA

DaneMcCloud 04-11-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 15622890)
Protecting Patrick is priority 1 and replacing Sammy is 2 in my opinion. I still say Jenkins by some sort of Veach magic trick and I don't know enough about the receivers to make a call.

I'll take an awesome WR over a tackle that needs development every day of the week

Otter 04-11-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15623061)
I'll take an awesome WR over a tackle that needs development every day of the week

Like I said I'm just spit balling but Patrick isn't going to be able to toss the rock when constantly running for his life.

I'll buy ya a beer next time I'm in LA if it isn't Jenkins. :thumb:


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