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Kiimo 11-08-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16586400)
If Josh Allen goes down you all better believe that the "Actually, ACTUALLY, I think Geno Smith should win MVP!" conversations will be all over with the usual suspects.

Hell Emmanuel Acho probably already has it written.



lol here we go



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Geno Smith&#39;s passer rating this season on...<br><br>Throws past the sticks: 129.6<br><br>Throws against two-deep coverage: 109.7<br><br>Throws under pressure: 92.1<br><br>Top 3 in these &quot;degree of difficulty&quot; throws. He&#39;s not just a feel-good story. He&#39;s a legitimate MVP candidate.</p>&mdash; Doug Farrar ✍ (@NFL_DougFarrar) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DougFarrar/status/1590003095530266625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PAChiefsGuy 11-08-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16588098)
Or the Wilson INT or Belechick shutting down the greatest show on turf. Or shutting down a dominant Rams offense (after the Ford offsides). Or having a Bucs defense carry him to a SB and then dominating a patchwork OLine from KC with Mahomes being hobbled by turf toe. I will give Brady credit for a couple of SBs but to say he was clutch is disingenuous. He has greatly benefited from great defenses and sheer luck over the course of his career.

He's got the most game winning drives of all-time and I don't think its really close. Saying he isn't clutch is just being a hater at this point.

Wallcrawler 11-08-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16587550)
Exactly right.

I don't wish injuries on our opponents but I'm not going to cry about it if they do. It's football, shit happens.

Just win, that's all there is to it.

This.

Imagine hoping a guy bounces his head off the turf so that you can have a better shot to win.

Maybe try having some ****ing faith that 15 and the boys will beat whoever is put in front of them, because if they're on their A game, nobody is stopping them.

The games we lose, we beat ourselves 9 times out of 10. It's dumbass decisions, dumbass playcalls, or flat out terrible execution of something you practiced every day. (LOOKING AT YOU, HARRISON BUTKER)

If you're to the point you want the best players on the other team to just not play, because you're scared that Andy gonna Andy, Butker gonna leave 4 on the field again, Spags gonna forget defensive concepts against superstar players, or the horrific Dave Toub Special Teams Shitshow Is gonna be on display, just don't watch, because a good portion of the shit I just listed, IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

If we let it happen and Josh Allen beats us, we didn't deserve to win the game.

Keep in mind, 13 seconds isn't even needed in the divisional if Butker makes his PAT and FG. We made it harder than it needed to be but pulled it off.

We are the better team. Period. We just have to put it on the field. We don't need the best players to go down and get an easy mode title that haters will viciously mock because we didn't have a challenge to get it.

Chief Pagan 11-08-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16587824)
Allen is a phenomenal QB. If I could pick a QB and not pick Mahomes, Allen is who I would take.

I think most serious posts here recognize that. There is a healthy respect of him.

I also think it is fair to question if his style of play is conducive to longevity. One of the things that makes him so dynamic is his running ability, but using it as a primary play-call option, and his willingness to seek out contact on those plays make the question valid.

This isn't Justin Fields. You don't NEED to run him to have him star for you.

For this year I would take him.

I'm not sure I would sign him to be Mr. Franchise unless I thought I could change his style. He doesn't need to take as many hits as he does to be a great QB.

He needs to pick his moments.

I know Herbert hasn't won anything yet, but his playing style doesn't scare me. If he played for Andy he would look even better than he does now.

tredadda 11-08-2022 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 16588529)
He's got the most game winning drives of all-time and I don't think its really close. Saying he isn't clutch is just being a hater at this point.

He has the most…..by one over Manning and Brees. Credit where credit is due though. Still think he’s nowhere near 7 rings if he isn’t the beneficiary of great defenses.

tredadda 11-08-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16588580)
For this year I would take him.

I'm not sure I would sign him to be Mr. Franchise unless I thought I could change his style. He doesn't need to take as many hits as he does to be a great QB.

He needs to pick his moments.

I know Herbert hasn't won anything yet, but his playing style doesn't scare me. If he played for Andy he would look even better than he does now.

Some of Allen’s play style comes from his OCs calling designed runs. He could be taught to not take as many big hits. Hoping he slows that down because he has an arm that will allow him to be good over a long length of time.

ToxSocks 11-08-2022 04:55 PM

They really keeping a lid on this Josh Allen thing. Not a good sign imo.

Pepe Silvia 11-08-2022 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16588997)
They really keeping a lid on this Josh Allen thing. Not a good sign imo.

Trying to find a good deer antler spray.

Mecca 11-08-2022 05:02 PM

If he's getting a second opinion thar means he was probably told he needs Tommy John.

ToxSocks 11-08-2022 05:03 PM

When Mahomes dislocated a knee cap we were getting reports that night and the day after that he was gonna be aight.

The Bills' silence is deafening.

crispystl 11-08-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16589015)
If he's getting a second opinion thar means he was probably told he needs Tommy John.

Yeah it sure seems like no news is bad news at this point.

crispystl 11-08-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16589018)
When Mahomes dislocated a knee cap we were getting reports that night and the day after that he was gonna be aight.

The Bills' silence is deafening.

I literally just told my son the same thing.

DaFace 11-08-2022 05:13 PM

Eh, if the Bills treat the weekly schedule like the Chiefs do, they don't have normal Tuesday press conferences. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Mecca 11-08-2022 05:19 PM

The Bills also have no reason to tell the Vikings to not prepare for him.

JustDíqLix 11-08-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16588580)
For this year I would take him.

I'm not sure I would sign him to be Mr. Franchise unless I thought I could change his style. He doesn't need to take as many hits as he does to be a great QB.

He needs to pick his moments.

I know Herbert hasn't won anything yet, but his playing style doesn't scare me. If he played for Andy he would look even better than he does now.

Allen does pick his moments.

Chiefs fans have this idea that Allen runs 20 times a game and I don’t know where they get it from.


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