75 percent plus of the board agrees. Should be flushed since Blackbob was. Setting a bad precedent of inconsistency.

Only way to make sure that happens is to get the mods involved. He will never agree to that bet and even if he does he will welch on it. The mods need to make him be a man of his word.

I really wouldn't use the Ravens as a good team. They suck this year.

Never happen. Has to be a mod mult.

Baltimore beat the browns in Baltimore 14-6. Just sayin

Turned the skin game off at halftime I bet

LMAO

Classic.

Cranked up some G and R to drown out Momma's moans as well?

There we go.

Knock knock knockin on knowmo's backdoor...

I hope we beat the Broncos in Denver so this dumbass will go away.

He won't go away. He'll just say we cheated or the refs called the game badly.

He never goes away for long. Only a ban can get him to leave.

FYP

Flush this turd and replace him with Hootie.

How will we troll him when we beat Denver's ass?

Babydicksyndromeplanet.com?

I guess we can go to the Mange.

Just keep flooding this with KC tweets

How bout an ask Knowmo repository...


So, Knowmo. Got any good leads on an Antonio Banderas love doll for a gay friend of mine?

LMAO

Uhhh....New, not used.

I think we ban way too many people nowadays . this board has a reputation for being leniant. we need to keep it that way !!!!

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...n-fox-run-team

God bless you John Elway :)

fxd.

What are the Donks going to do when Manning retires? Hope Aaron Rodgers has a neckbone problem, and the Packers cut him loose for an Andrew Luck?

Elway doesn't get credit for shit until I see that team placed in a messy situation.

**** me, even the Tebow playoff win was a lucky draw winning the conference at 8-8 and getting a really terrible Steelers team.

When Manning is gone, they will return to the sub-.500 powerhouse we know they truly are.

You got manning. Without him you're not good

We'll be in the same QB situation that KC is in.

We're 10th in rush defense just an FYI

And 28th in yards per carry.

Due to running QBs and one day to prepare for the eagles

And 1st in points allowed

Reaching..be careful you'll strain something shithead

MagicHef < cup of rancid semen

Bringing in one of the best regular season QBs of all time can do that. Sadly though he only has a fluky Tebow led playoff win so far and once Peyton retires the house of cards that Elway built will come crashing down. Lets see the media praise him then, especially when all he has built up for fails to bring home a SB.

He just doesn't understand football. Feel sorry for him...

What? Are you going to trade for Matt Cassel?

Brian Griese Brock Osweiler looks good! He learned from the very best, and is inheriting a Super Bowl team. He's in a really good place to have a fantastic career in Denver!

Try running on us, bro.

I mean the Browns sure did! They exploited us! ROFL

28th in YPC? Yikes! We sure are in deep deep trouble if we face potent run-heavy teams like the Eagles, Titans, Texans, and Browns!

ROFL

It's a little alarming how many times I have to explain this to you. Do I think that a team could eschew a QB, line up exclusively in the wildcat, and run the ball 60 times, and KC's defense would resort to flailing around, unable to stop them? No, that's stupid.

I'll explain it again, let me know if you don't understand any of it.

KC's defense is good, unlike last year. Why? I think it's because of the scheme more than the talent. I think that the aggressiveness of the scheme results in success against the pass, while leaving it vulnerable against the run. Overall, it has been extremely successful so far.

What happens to schemes as the season goes on? They get figured out and exploited by other teams.

I look for the defense to regress to its talent level (which is still pretty good, just not mid-80s Bears good) over the rest of the season. I think we've already seen this beginning to happen, with the defensive performances we saw against Case Keenum and Jason Campbell.

You're the one who wields that YPC stat like it has any kind of meaning.

The issue of teams "cracking" Sutton's scheme (as overblown as you're making it out to be with their performances against the Texans and Browns) is a different conversation.

If that's what you want to talk about, then why do you keep bringing up YPC?

Also, why are the Chiefs destined to regress because teams are working around Sutton's scheme? ALL teams play within a scheme. Just because this is a particularly aggressive one doesn't mean other coaches and their playbooks aren't susceptible to the same issues.

And yet, some defenses like the 2010 Packers and the 2011 Giants seem to get better as the season goes on.

I wonder why that is. Shouldn't they regress?

The gap in YPC and YPA is a huge clue that this defense is thriving due to scheme and not talent. As I have said probably 5 times. That's why I keep bringing up YPC.

The aggressiveness is precisely what smart QBs and OCs will take advantage of. I don't know why the Giants or Packers improved, but I would guess their situations had very little to do with KC's current situation. For a team that was very similar in a lot of ways, look at the 2009 Broncos.

The only reason Denver fans keep bringing that comparison up is because it makes you feel better and gives you hope that the Chiefs won't keep the division from you.

And yet Manning struggles the most against this type of aggressive defense.

This defense ain't exactly going to shut out the Broncos or even hold them to under 3 TDs, but it's going to get its hits in on Manning and create a couple turnovers. That has a lasting impact as the game wears on, particularly in the 4th quarter.

And I'm not seeing the YPA/YPC thing. How is that indicative of what you're saying?

Holy **** you are dumb. This is one of the more talented defenses in the last decade. The scheme is just using the talent correctly

24 of our sacks come when rushing only four guys. It's all scheme!!!

He's saying they concede the run and aggressively attack the pass. I'm not buying either, but that's what he's saying.

I won't pretend to know what's going to happen in the future, but it just seems our defense has that one bad stat. Pretty much everything else is on a break neck pace: points, pass yards per game, sacks, pass yards per attempt, etc.

Truthfully, we don't even allow a ton of yards on the ground; we just give them up at a higher clip than most other teams. Attribute that to the bad game against Philly and Pryor/Fitzpatrick running on us or what have you. I don't think anyone is worried about that and certainly no one that actually watches us play thinks our run defense is a weakness.

Something to also note, its obvious that our defense is still stellar without the turnovers. There was some concern, mostly from rival fans on this board, that we might not be able to remain so strong on defense without the help of the ridiculous turnover rate we were enjoying early in the season. In the past three games, I can only remember forcing two turnovers- the game-clinching strip by Tamba and Bess's muffed punt. Yet we're still winning games and still haven't allowed more than 17 points in any game.

We have a much tougher go of it coming up in the second half of the season but I still feel good about where we stand on defense.

I think he's saying he's never watched us play. Outside of the Eagles busting free....teams just give up on it cause it just doesn't work.

Why should that stop him? MHM is predicting us to lose every week all the while admitting that he's missed most of our games.

We beat the Texans in spite of being BEHIND in the turnover margin for that game.

PileHighMania gets pissy when we win.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Alex and Jamaal put the defense in a really bad spot that game and yet we still found a way to hold them to 16 points.

...And I should have said the last two weeks. I didn't realize we played the Raiders 3 weeks ago. That just seems so long ago now.

lol...you ain't lyin'. The back handed compliments and passive-aggressive hating that dude spews is amusing.

2nd place really has these guys on the rag it seems ROFL

He does? Can you provide evidence? It seems like the story on what Manning struggles against changes weekly.

When a team has its DL/LBs rushing aggressively, it opens up lanes for the run game. Running QBs, especially, can take advantage.

Excuse us if we do not quake in fear of Slowshon.

Knowshon is definitely one guy that you can't call soft.

Knowshon is soft.

Gee, you're wrong again.

That is an idiotic statement. You can say the exact same thing for the Packers, Saints, and Patriots. When you have one of the best QBs in the league if you no longer have them you won't be as good. Wow, you are a genius.

Manning rejected that shithole known as Kansas Shitty and you derps are still butt-hurt over it.

An effective pass rush with defensive backs that don't allow receivers a clean break off the snap to run their routes? To me, that sounds like the best way to take out one of the most sound pocket passers to ever play the game. Manning is so good that he can find the right outlet instantaneously, and will more than half the time beat the pass rush in getting the ball out of his hands. The key to beating him lies in what the defense does with the other 40% of the snaps. Hitting him is crucial. If you hit him enough times, he's generally prone to wilting.

The Colts play the same scheme as the Chiefs only with far less talented players throughout. Peyton needs to put in a lot of extra work when that game comes up so he can correct the mistakes he made in that game. Not only will he be dealing with that, but he'll be dealing with better players, tighter coverage, and a better pass rush.

The Chiefs are also a very good defense against screens. I don't think that's going to help him out much.

Hey Hootie, when we want to hear your stupid ****ing opinion on any subject, we'll ask Clay to post it for you. Until then, enjoy your banning you drunk moron.

Rodgers, Brees, and Brady aren't dealing with the twilight of their careers. As old as Brady is, he's younger than Manning and has never had to re-learn how to throw the ball following delicate neck surgeries.

That's why the topic of the Broncos without Manning comes up so often. He's not in your long-term plans regardless of whether or not he stays healthy.

Why the emphasis on "you?" Did Knowshon beat up PGM in a bar fight while Von was watching his crew murder people?

What difference does it make? Manning has two or three years left? Ok, well, Rather have 2 years of Peyton Manning than 10 years of that abortion Kansas Shitty has starting.

I will be glad to see Peyton playing for the next two years in Denver as he will be holding them hostage. Manning's arm strength is already breaking this season. I can't wait to see it in week 9 two years from now.

LMAO

He just played the best 8 game stretch of any QB in NFL history.

You are joking right? Teams give Denver yards rushing.

...thanks to like 10 illegal picks on screens a game. Never seen anything like it.

You are stupid. Manning is having the greatest season EVER by a QB... and you have Alex Smith.

Those are awesome

What does that have to do with his performance two years from now?

Opposing QBs are Peyton against Denver's shit D....against KC they look like a reeruned Tebow.

So when Minnesota brought Brett Favre aboard for two seasons, wouldn't you say it was fair when Bears fans were skeptical of the team Minnesota might have without Favre?

This isn't a jealousy thing. Manning is an old QB. Old QBs decline very quickly in this league. It tends to catch them and their teams by surprise.

Denver has to be more concerned than Green Bay, New Orleans, and New England because their self-destruct target is far bigger than those other teams.

1 for 8 last week on passes thrown over 16 yards with two INTs. The signs of decline are present whether you can admit it or not.

Those two picks had nothing to do with lack of arm strength. On one, DT simply didn't fight for the ball even though he had it in his hands, and the other was a poor decision where he threw the ball to Welker, who was double covered. A couple of those passes were overthrows to Decker down the left sideline. I can't remember the rest off the top of my head, but 4 of those 8 passes had nothing to do with arm strength.