Exactly. Nothing they say now really matters at all.

Fish and Schwartz back by week 1? LFGGGG

I actually don't welcome that update. Sounds a lot like Chiefs denial. They need to confront reality.

ROFL

Good news means they're deluded.

Lol wut

Torn achilles ready for camp? Is there any record of any player ever coming back from torn achilles in 6 months?

Suggs came back in 5 months. So yes.

And for the record.....he said expect them back by camp. I don’t think he meant full participants.

Wasn’t Suggs a partial tear?

Football is a business. The Chiefs don't deal in "hope" nor does any other team.

If they say they'll be back is because they have objective evidence that they can be. Doesn't mean they WILL be but they're not just going to come out and say they'll be back if it doesn't look like they can be.

Do we know the extent of Fisher's injury, in reality?

Whether it's hope or optimism, my main concern is the Chiefs approach this offseason under the assumption they need two OTs that can start Week 1 who are not named Eric Fisher or Mitchell Schwartz.

Sounds like mathieu is about to be extended

Also they aren’t looking at a qb in this draft

Wouldn't mind paying some solid coin for a good backup qb.

They're not going to get two new starting tackles this offseason. Don't get your hopes up.

This team loves Chad Henne. Doubt he’s going anywhere.

I already said I thought Matthieu would be one of the fist things they do.

Ugh

Of course not, why would they? They'll have Fish and Schwartz back Week 1. All good.

Why in gods name would you pay money for a backup?

If Mahomes goes down for a game or 2, andy can win with henne or Moore or htisimage

If he’s hurt longer, the year is over anyway

It’s why I would be trying to find someone who can run about 60-70% of the offense and young.

I’d be fine drafting a guy in the mid late rounds every couple years and see if you can develop him into a competent backup atleast

Man, it seems crazy that they honestly think both tackles will be back in time for the start of the season, but this isn't the Carl Peterson or Scott Pioli era we're talking about here. They usually don't feed us a bunch of BS. If they are giving us an exact timeline I tend to believe them. It's not like they're pulling out the Eric Berry 'day to day' crap.

Obviously we will still need some insurance, but it's nice to hear the situation isn't as dire as many of us thought.

Dude, even if Schwartz and Fisher are both done, at least one tackle is already on the roster, probably Niang.

They're not going to acquire two new starting tackles this offseason regardless of the statuses of Schwartz and Fisher. It's just not going to happen.

Because Mahomes has been injured twice in the past 2 years and we almost lost to the Browns after leading by 16 at half.

Veach stated goal was to improve
Offensive Line
Defensive Line
Linebacker

Said draft was value early at

Offensive Line
Corner back

Wouldn't be surprised if we draft a center or pass-rusher at 31.

As it stands right now....the value of a center at 31 is garbage.

Several talking heads seem to think they're serious about taking a CB.

According to us. Chiefs may feel differently.

He also said getting Travis a backup TE and more depth at WR will always be on their radar.

And I just watched his comments on Fisher.

Said he had surgery on 1/29 and according to his medical staff....a projected returned is August.

And it doesn’t sound likes he’s breaking the bank at WR in FA.

You do know Chiefs were high on Ruiz last year?

I also disagree that a center can't be a value.

Our system is Tackle Center Tackle..

Draft elite OL if it's there. We are late 1, not top 5.

We need stars. If they are on OL it makes our offense much better.

There aren't any 1st round quality centers in this draft. Really at all.

I haven't got through them yet.

Finishing up WRs.

Regardless, the point was it sounded like Veach prefers OL but won't overdraft one .

We may not like any of the centers. They might.

Veach specifically mentioning his detail with contracts leading up to this year mentioning roster bonuses. Translation: I extended Patrick last year and left an option for a roster bonus conversion this year in case covid hurt the overall cap.

Feels good having a proactive GM.

Btw all we have to do is convert Patrick’s roster bonus and we aren’t in the red anymore LMAO

It’s weird being at 31 in that you’re probably gonna end up taking a 2nd round type guy. There aren’t gonna be that many first round players

Everyone says it every year but this year I’d love it if they could find a way to trade down and get another day 2 pick out of the deal.

Hopefully, that means somebody like Linsley is coming in FA and WR can be part of the draft strategy.

Linsley would solve a huge issue with the offensive line. Give him a 3-4 year deal with a lower year one cap hit and we’re good there.

I’d still look at bringing in someone like Josh Reynolds or Keelan Cole to play the X and then draft one where there’s value.

Veach mentioning that seems to be BPA. That makes sense to me considering a ton of QB’s, receivers and a tackles will be taken would leave the door open for a quality corner like Kelvin Joseph (Matt House coached him at Kentucky), Aaron Robinson or Greg Newsom being available.

Corner is one of the most valuable areas on a Patrick Mahomes team considering everyone is trying to load up on weapons and keep up with us.

Yeah, I really haven't thought about CB recently given all the other storylines going on but it would make a ton of sense, honestly.

I would hate a corner pick at 31.

Our defense doesn't need elite corners. We need more pass rush and 1 3 down lb.

It's also a position that Veach keeps finding cheap value at.

The entire defense revolves around the defensive backfield. We need pass rushers, yes, but there is no more important position in this defense than DB.

We’re losing Breeland most likely and Baker is coming back from an injury.

We’re one injury away from having an issue at DB.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan on spending big resources on a CB. It's so hard to play that position with the rules these days, I'd just keep doing what your doing there.

Safeties are far more important to us.

Smoke screen. And Ruiz sucked ****ing ass last year, worse than Wylie.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brett Veach said the Chiefs are optimistic that Patrick Mahomes, Mitchell Schwartz &amp; Eric Fisher can be ready at the start of training camp.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1366407205340270601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I tend to think Breeland re-signs with the Chiefs.

He's been with them for 2 seasons and has played really well. The Chiefs stuck with him during his ridiculous 2020 offseason and he'll be 29.9 years old to start the season, so I doubt there will be a huge contract waiting for him in free agency.

I woudln't be opposed to the Chiefs giving him a 2 year deal or so this time.

If Breeland leaves there should be a few bargain vets out there just as good.

A first round pick is the opposite of "big resources". The pick itself has value but a big part of that value is having a high-dollar position like CB locked up on a rookie salary for the next 5 years.

More important than CB's? Sure. But CB's are much more important the LB's in this defense.

We are doing great acquiring playable cb's at value.

We don't need lbs but every team could use at least 1 3 down eraser. We don't have that.

We also need pass rush.

I doubt it, especially those willing to play at bargain basement prices.

Breeland's re-signing should be a priority.

We don’t need LBs? In what ****ing bizarro world is that statement true?

We have Hitchens and Gay....and that’s it. We absolutely need another LB.

We NEED whatever the draft board has available. If that's DE, CB, LB, OT, WR, or whatever, we shouldn't let the draft board be completely dictated by happenstance.

Just because you'e been successful at acquiring cheap help at CB means you abandon the other options for acquiring them.

I mean, we got Wharton as a UDFA so maybe we shouldn't spend high draft picks on DL either, right?

We don't need LB's as much as we need other positions, I think that was his point. Since he went on to say we need a 3-down LB in the very next sentence. ;)

Breeland is 29 and wants paid, Ward is here 1 more year before someone gives him big money, Baker just broke his goddamn femur and Fenton is a solid #3.

Taking a corner early would be very responsible assuming a talented one is there.

A first round pick is a big resource.

My philosophy has changed a bit regards to CB's. I woudln't pay one big money either unless he's legitimately a Ramsey type CB.

Sneed, Baker, Fenton.

There you go.

No one is paying Breeland big bucks.

He'll be nearly 30 when the season begins and if a big contract was going to happen, it would have happened last year, before his incident. Instead, he re-signed with the Chiefs for $4 million.

The days of a big contract are over for Breeland.

According to over the cap we have paid less than $3 million for Breeland in each year he’s been here.

Considering top end corners get $18-20 million now, I could totally see a team with a ton of cap space offering a deal to him worth $6 million and Veach choosing to pass.

Maybe, but that team is making a huge leap of faith in a guy that doesn't deserve that leap.

And there's just no way that any team is rewarding a 30 year old CB with an offseason history like Breeland's with a huge contract, which is why he's been available on the cheap for the past three seasons.

185? this season 220? next. Strange things may happen to only make sense later

I don'r understand those who feel Breeland is JAG...

Dude's done everything asked of him and has been great.

I'd rather have him back than Sorenson.

He's good. He replaceable.

Colts signed Xavier Rhodes for 3 million last year.

I think a guy like Bouye or another good vet could end up doing a 1 or 2 year deal here in the 5 million or less ballpark.

There are no question marks as to Breeland's fit in KC, so why move on from him to take a chance on another vet?

If the money is the same, I don't understand why one would change course.

Frank Clark's lack of production is a big problem. We've already spent a crapload on D-line. Jones gets double teamed and we get no pass rush. Clark runs straight upfield and takes himself out of plays constantly. Plus you can throw screens at his side all day long. He's sucking down our available bucks for zero return.

Wow that’s some serious hyperbole.

I have been saying he should be back for the opener and no one would believe me. :p

I didn't say to change course. Just that if Breeland didn't want to sign we would have options.

Not nearly enough for a 17 week season and a playoff run.

A second year player, a broken leg, and a slot cb.

Much work to do. Hope that Keyes makes the rotation as well.

I still don't believe this statement. I think he is deliberately being deceptive. Or wildly optomistic.

Big advantage for us. I think this is how we found Wharton.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Because of the lack of additional exposure this offseason, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach believes that a lot of undrafted players will not only make teams, but make legit impacts next season. He said we have to be one of those teams that can find those players.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1366409454464294913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well he’s talking about 2022 and beyond.

Ward will most likely be back for 2021.

What benefit would it be for Veach to be deceptive?

Playing the GM game. Make other teams believe we aren't drafting/looking for tackles.