Brian Kelly was maybe able to get away with being a jackass at Notre Lame but that shit will not fly at LSU.

At Notre Lame he could recruit nationally and didn't necessarily have to forge close relationships with local high schools in a specific geographic area.

At LSU, it is expected that he'll be able to lock down the best recruits in the state of Louisiana and also be a regular contender for the top recruits in East Texas/Houston and Mississippi.

That will require building close relationships with high school coaches/programs in those areas... a potential struggle with his not so award winning personality/disposition.

6 of 7.

And you can mock him for losing 3 games, but he has 2 of the 4 9 win regular seasons in Kentucky football history.

And is recruiting better than all but 13 or 14 teams in the country currently.

I just read that story. Jesus Kelly is a piece of ****

Not one single recruit will alter their decision based on how Kelly left ND

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The Kelly move is literally him saying he can't win a title at ND in today's college football.

Shit he could have just sent an email

Please stop with your terrible takes

What else is it?

Money, job security, easier admissions into university, better facilities, better recruiting pipeline. It might be easier to win a title at LSU but that doesnt mean Notre Dame cant win a title.

I kind of see what Mecca is saying but I'd actually gravitate towards the middle ground...

Kelly COULD win a title at ND. However, it's likely he WILL win a title at LSU.

ND isn't dogshit but LSU is in THE power 5 conference. They've got a better shot, year in and year out.

ND isn’t winning shit until they join a ****ing conference.

It's definitely holding them back.

The problem is that this is the same situation Penn State had and they've found it significantly more difficult to get to 10 wins in the Big 10 than it was as an independent.

Notre Lame was never competitive in their CFP games… Brian Kelly saw the ceiling and left.

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The Ferentz rumors are just that anymore. His SONS are getting NFL jobs (and college jobs).

He's going to retire a Hawkeye and honestly, it might not be that far away.

****ing Yay

Yeah, it's Martyball but can Iowa really do better year in and year out as a 2nd-tier B10 school?

I'd say they're at their ceiling now. Only way to go is down, just ask some of the other 2nd-tier B10 teams who got rid of boring coaches.

They certainly are at their ceiling. They are going to get the shit kicked out of them Saturday night.

Yeah, that's what we thought about the team they are facing, going into their game on Saturday.

Anything can happen, especially when you have a defense that generates this many turnovers, but I'm not expecting miracles.

Fat Scott not being in a hiring position has ended those perennial “Ferentz to NFL” rumors.

Oh well. They'll put up a fight in the bourbon bowl.

THink KF ended looking at the NFL after he turned down Jax in 2003

It wasn't just Pioli. It's a Belichik thing. Anybody connected to Bill was looking to that old Browns staff for coaching hires. Hell, Bill himself hired one of Ferentz' sons for a while.

I will sacrifice my goat if Iowa can manage to beat Michigan.

Over/under on 7 Petras sacks. Just need 1 special team TD and 1 defensive TD which may sound crazy, but not for Iowa. It can be done but it will be a tall order.

Keep his son too please

ROFL

He's certainly a chip off the old block.

My dream is for Brian Ferentz to become Nebraska's head football coach once the Frost Advisory expires.

Iowa has a nice 7 game winning streak over Nebraska and 8 of the last 9. I bet Nebraska thought they were going to be someone when they came over to the Big 10. Texas and OU are going to be in for a surprise to. Big 12 football isn't a real football conference.

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ND will apparently wait for Luke Fickell, apparently the No 1 choice. Jack Swarbrick suggested he will not name an interim. Assts being told to stay on the road. Strong Catholic ties with Fickell. ND wants renewed bond with traditional Midwest Catholic high schools in recruiting.

Yay. So we’ve chosen not to compete.

Great recruiting strategy if it was 1925.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Multiple sources indicated that Brian Kelly’s address to the team on Tuesday morning lasted less than two minutes, then he turned around and walked out. He did not take questions from the players.</p>&mdash; Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1465780600011247618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

EB Coach Oklahoma ???
 

Would Eric jump back to college and take the OU job since the pro teams haven't been calling? Not sure he would be a fit, but seems like he could really take the reins and run with a job like this.

I would hate that. At least if he gets a NFL job we get a comp pick. We get nothing if he goes the college route.

The guy in the white shirt, front row, second from the right is already not buying Brian Kelly's bullshit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFebP3Ja...jpg&name=large

Any idea what EB makes as an OC? He desires a nice paycheck even if KC doesn't get a Comp pick.

“And so I say, Goax Tigers!”

Nothing surprising except the idea that Oklahoma State will make the top for if Cincinnati loses and maybe if Alabama loses (but kind of doubt it unless they lose by 40).

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Georgia is in regardless of what happens against Bama in SEC Title game. Michigan is safely in if they beat Iowa. IMO, Alabama needs to beat Georgia or keep it close to get it. If they lose and it’s a convincing victory for Georgia, it will be hard to justify keeping them in over a one loss Ok. St. team (assuming they beat Baylor) or a one loss ND team. Cincy is in as long as they win. They will keep the 4 spot.

If Alabama gets in with two losses then the system is more broken than it already appears to be. I do think UGA is in regardless. Cincinnati is the one team that could still miss out. If OSU beats Baylor, they could leapfrog Cincinnati.

Oklahoma St. being 5 isn't shocking. They'll have 2 wins over teams ranked in the top 15 and 1 loss if they win Saturday. What's unfortunate is that Cincy could be pushed out even if they beat Houston because of that AND if Alabama wins.

People whine about Cincy's close wins but are completely ignoring Okie State only beating a FCS team by 7 and needing a bad ref call to edge 7-5 Boise.

None of them looked invested.

Who's beat more ranked teams this year?

The win over Notre Dame equals wins over Baylor (who lost to a putrid TCU squad) and a fraudulent Oklahoma.

The Big 12 is weak sauce.

Agree with you. Just saying what I think will happen.

Hopefully Georgia takes care of business against Bama (convincingly) and assuming the other 3 win, I hope that the four that deserve to be there (Georgia, Michigan, Cincy and OK St.) ultimately end up there. But knowing the weirdness that is college football and championship week, I fully expect one of those three to lose unexpectedly and we’ll probably end up with someone else in there (either Bama or some unexpected ‘x’ team).

Would be nice to have a playoff for once without Ohio St., Clemson or Bama. Some new blood in there is good for the college game.

Michigan beat a 5-7 Rutgers team by 7 points and won by 3 at a 3-9 Nebraska.

What's your point?

Point is, only Cincy's weaker performances are mentioned by the show and people while they gloss over crappy games by P5 teams.

I would put Cincy at #2. Michigan has one good win, a loss, and those bad performances against Rutgers and Cornballers.

I think it matters what happens. If Alabama loses a close game and Oklahoma State loses, IMO Alabama should still get in over Notre Dame, who's biggest win came in 3rd in their division.

If Alabama gets blown out by Georgia and everyone else wins, I think Oklahoma State should get in over Alabama... not that their resume is stellar, but they will have a couple of top 10 wins under their belt.

I know there's the whole 'you can only play who is on your schedule' angle, but at this point ask yourself who can beat Georgia? If Alabama plays them really close in a loss, the answer is yes, they could beat Georgia..... but, what about the others?

In short, I think Alabama can still prove something this weekend, even in a loss... and 2 losses in the SEC will always be a bit overlooked compared to 1 loss in another conference (or even none).

The one thing everyone can agree on is the playoff should be expanded to 8 right?

I can buy putting Cincy at 2 and think they're a PO team, but I think it's shortsighted to dismiss how good Oklahoma St. is.

And Oklahoma St.'s resume is as good, if not better, than Alabama's right now, barring Saturday.

I think Michigan's legit, but only has 1, maybe 2, good wins this season. Beating Iowa would help.

Couldn't agree more. Would love to see those 4. Would make for a great playoff.

Michigan may have only one good win, buts it probably the most impressive one of the season so far. To me, their win over Ohio State is much more impressive than Cincy’s win over ND. Regardless of current rankings, if you put ND and Ohio St. on a neutral field right now, it would be a bloodbath for ND. The talent disparity between the two teams is huge.

I have no problem with Cincy being in the Top 4, but Michigan deserves to be ranked above them due to their win over Ohio State. And not just the win itself, but the way they won. It was damn impressive. That said, Michigan has a history of choking in big games, so it wouldn’t really shock me if they lost to Iowa in the Big10 Title game and ended up getting knocked out of the playoff. But you gotta give them their props so far. They deserve to be right where they are.

Absolutely this! I am an alum and a die hard Tigers fan! This is an AWESOME signing! Cannot wait to see his coaching staff - SEC just got more competition!

The best win of the season is Oregon's at Ohio St. Hands down. Not even a question.

Assuming Alabama loses a close game and Cincinnati and OSU wins, who gets bumped?

You're probably vastly underestimating how bad some of the teams are on Cincinnati's schedule compared to even the bad Big 12 teams... I mean, Texas Tech, who lost to Texas 70-35 still beat Houston. And Texas Tech is still rated top 70 of all teams.

Hell, Kansas is 139 and Cincinnati played 3 teams that are worse.

On average, the crappy Big 12 teams are far better than who Cincinnati played this season.

Sorry, should clarify my statement further.

I meant best win of any team that is currently in the Top 5 and has a realistic shot at getting in the playoff.

I would agree that on its own merit, the win by Oregon at Ohio St. is more impressive overall.

If OSU beats Baylot (again) after beaing OU they absolutely deserve a shot.

Who should get bumped? Neither.

Who does get bumped? Likely Cincy.

We can't do the transitive property when comparing teams, which is why the best thing we can do is the eye test and head to head.

Look at Mississippi State. They won at Texas A&M, the same place where Alabama lost. But lost at Memphis and was smoked by Alabama in Starkville. Memphis is a bad football team.

Ok, you go from a "select" player pick due to the university's (obvious) high standards to "fruit for the picking". You go from $2 million a year to a guaranteed $9.5 million a year for 10 years + incentives and you are a piece of shit? WTF? If put in that situation, I CHALLENGE any of YOU to tell me, HONESTLY, you would not do it? Please! He wants a CHAMPIONSHIP - to go along with his legacy - #3 on all time coaching WINS in college football. He is mature, thorough and a proven winner. He had numerous limitations at ND. They are always the "ugly" duck. Now, he will have a chance at SEC supremacy. He is also a very good recruiter. It will work out and he will be fine. Welcome Brian Kelly to LSU!

I think Brian Kelly is a piece of shit because he was responsible for the death of a student assistant that would have been avoided if he wasn't an asshole of a person.

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I would bet Alabama and Cincinnati would be in, and I personally wouldn't see a huge problem with it.... I don't think Alabama is going to drop 2 spots unless they lose by multiple touchdowns (minus garbage time).

And I'm not sure Cincinnati can play their way out unless they lose, given Houston is ranked.

I'd also be surprised if Oklahoma State wins this weekend, just given the monkey off their back last weekend... it would actually be kind of impressive if they take care of business.

That might need to happen to possibly change the playoff structure. I imagine a large portion of America would not like a Cincinnati team who did not lose get knocked out for no reason.

I completely forgot about that story. Very sad.

I hope Cincinnati made it, but my gut tells me that if a 2 loss Alabama makes it and OSU wins, Cincinnati will be the odd team that is left out. Granted I think if they make it as a #4 seed, they get crushed by UGA (assuming they beat Alabama).

And that was the coaches fault? Sad but that was Mother Nature not by the hands of Brian Kelly.

Yes, but because he coaches teams that win a lot of football games, it's completely ignored.

Did you have any problem with Coach O allegedly mishandling sexual assault/harassment allegations against Guice?

In be4 LSU A/V club hits the transfer portal

Oh absolutely I do! Coach O is the most immature coach LSU has ever had. I hope the HAMMER falls for those allegations. Coach O got hired as HC through the Forrest Gump vine - never was a fan even if a 19 - 0 National Championship came from it. He thinks packing up and running off to Destin, FL will escape his eluding fate - WRONG! He will get what is coming to him.

Okie State has a far better resume than Michigan does and I'd argue that if they beat Baylor it's a better win than if Michigan beats Iowa. That said, the AP is going to give preferential treatment to Michigan when their only quality win came against Ohio State.

Right now I'd have:

1. Georgia
2. Oklahoma State
3. Cincinnati
4. Alabama
5. Michigan

If everything goes as thought with Georgia piss-pounding Bama, Okie St winning, Cincy over Houston, and Michigan beating Iowa, then I'd move Michigan to 4 and Notre Dame to 5. If Bama keeps it close though and any other team in the top 4 lose, then it's hard to knock Bama out for Notre Dame who has a shit schedule.

I don't care that he switched schools.

If I were going to leave, though, I would have the ****ing decency to tell my players and staff what my intentions are before some media dweeb gets ahold of this crap. I also wouldn't call my players in at 7:00 AM and leave after 2 minutes or whatever it was.

What that shows me as a recruit is you don't actually respect your players, their time, or their careers. It shows me that if a university throws the farm to sign you, you first remember what your responsibilities are at home. You don't let your recruiters do house visits while the news ****ing breaks. You don't just dawdle and let the deal get finalized before you wait a few hours to tell people.

Your players and coaches have the first right to know what's going on. LSU can ****ing wait an hour or two before shit gets leaked. And they would-- it's not like there was any competition for that job. LSU knew who they wanted, and they weren't going to finish the interview with, "We have some other candidates in mind, so we'll give you a call in a couple days to let you know our decision, ok?"

If I'm a top recruit right now and I know the circumstances of how Kelly left ND, there's no way I sign with LSU if I receive the same offer to play at another top coach's school. No ****ing way.

Yup. Kelly is an asshat.

I would agree if Cincinnati wasn't playing this weekend or if they were playing an unranked team.

The way it should be viewed (IMO) is nothing before yesterday matters.... Cincinnati is #4 and they have to play their way out of it.

In other words, at the end of the weekend, there shouldn't be this over-analyzing SoS and all these other things, because all of that is taken into account in their #4 ranking.

So, it only comes down to how much more/less impressive the wins/losses are this weekend on whether Cincinnati is in or out. What's a win against Baylor versus a win against Houston? If Ok St beats the higher ranked team by 3 more touchdowns than Cincinnati's win, is that impressive enough to give them the nod?

All that said, there could be something said about recalibrating at the end of the season and saying a quality win at the time probably wasn't or whatever, given preseason polls are bullshit... but, they kind of make their bed by over-rating teams early in the season, which throws wrenches in everything, so there's really no going back from that.

I don't know how you can knock Michigan for that game at Nebraska or say it was a bad performance when just like the other 6 teams that played Nebraska put up similar results. Nebraska is not Tulsa or whatever that team was Cincinnati needed a goal line stand to beat.

If this is true USC needs to lose some schollies and get a bowl ban

https://twitter.com/georgewrighster/...194VC1Ouw&s=19

I love where you are going and truly hope Cincinnati is a lock if they win. Problem is with OSU beating OU and Baylor in back to back weeks, they will make a strong case to leapfrog Cincy. Plus there will be those who want Alabama in the playoffs and will do almost anything to justify that. In this scenario, it looks like Cincy will be the odd team out.

Deep down I think most voters are hoping Cincinnati loses to Houston so that "problem" goes away. As weird as it sounds, there is still an off chance ND makes it which would make the voters even happier as many don't want to see Cincinnati or OSU in the playoffs.

good discussion here. It has been interesting

Go Hawkeyes

Georgia
Michigan
Cincinnati
Oklahoma St.

Two Big12 schools make the playoffs.