Yes, me. Not the guy comparing a 6 car collision with injury and fleeing the scene to Jaywalking.

If your position is 'we'd have been brought in and booked' perhaps. Though again - no charges have been filed and no, this would not be super high on any prosecutors radar for a rank and file citizen. Even that would take at least as much time as has passed thus far.

But you seem to be suggesting that they'd have a regular dude sitting in the pokey until his arraignment. That's just highly unlikely. And doubly so if it's someone who has a family/job/presence in a community and thus aren't likely to skip town. You don't have to be a millionaire athlete - just show that you have ties to the area.

People are picked up, booked and sent on their way with notice of a court date on FELONIES all the time.

You didn’t know your license was suspended? Guess I’m not sure how that gets communicated to someone and when.

You're conflating unrelated issues. Did you have to wait in jail until the court case was completely resolved for your suspended license?

Yes, that's exactly what I did.

You're aware of this rhetorical device called 'juxtaposition' correct?

Yes... we would have been brought in and booked. We would have had to bail out. We would have had a mugshot taken. We would have had our shoes taken away. We would have sat in a cell for at least a few hours.

I'm not. I'm saying they would hold a regular person until they made bail. That is literally what happened to me and there were ZERO injuries and no collision.

Yes and if Rice doesn't pay his fine and he's pulled over he would have an outstanding warrant as well and be snatched up. How do you not pay a ticket... LMAO

I would have had to sit in jail over the weekend until a judge could have seen me on Monday had I not made bail.

I'm willing to bet that regardless of how this works out he will be on the hook for the lambo. Is the insurance going to cover the costs of a vehicle that was trashed because of wreckless driving and breaking the law?

The Lady of Justice statue is peeking with a wad of cash in her pocket.

Got deployed, asked a family member to sort it, they didn't.

Just a brief tangent regarding 'dual justice systems'

They exist. And money helps.

That said - a TON of it is white noise; it's static. There are absolutely inconsistent outcomes and some of them are driven by money, fame and/or race. But the overwhelming number of them are driven by individual actors. A single prosecutor somewhere who has a burr in his ass about some particular issue. Or a judge that didn't get laid on his birthday.

The 'system' is still just a collection of individual actors. All of whom have their own proclivities and their own foibles. They have good days and bad. Some of them flat out suck at their jobs.

But this idea that there's dual tracks and Rice, by virtue of his fame and/or wealth, will get the 'high road' track that none of us would ever see isn't really supportable. In some cases, in fact, fame is a hindrance. Many celebrities have gotten nailed to the wall over shit that rank and file folks skate on (Martha Stewart going to prison still cracks me up a bit; and I think one of those college fraud actresses got hammered pretty good as well if my memory serves).

There's not an obvious Venn Diagram when it comes to inconsistent outcomes.

Well your self admittance of not paying a ticket and getting arrested for it is pretty good proof of you being reeruned.

:LOL:

Classic Iowa.

Well. Is it not?

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Sorry... I had a few other things on my mind.

Which would first require you be charged. He has not been.

And 'we' would not be charged by now in Dallas either - again; much bigger things to worry about down there. They'll get to it when they get to it.

If anything the notoriety of Rice will speed the charging/booking process up. If he gets charged, he'll get booked. Maybe there's bail, maybe there's not (again, ties to the community carry a lot of weight - same as it would for you). he'll have a mugshot taken.

Maybe - MAYBE - he won't have to sit in jail for a couple hours. But y'know what, that's the case for a bunch of average citizens as well. If you think the Sheriff is out there kicking down doors over stuff like this, I don't know what to tell you. They aren't. A lot of the time they WILL just try to call you if they know where to find you. And they'll ask you to come in. And then you can hire an attorney and they'll go with you to do the paperwork while you're getting booked. Then you go home.

Methinks you watch WAY too many procedurals on NBC...

So you are one of those, " it's somebody else's fault guys..."

Wow... your jump to conclusions mat is in the mail, bud.

I just told you the events surrounding the reason I "forgot" to pay the traffic ticket.

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I am rather enjoying watching you attempting to drag this conversation away from my original statement about had it been some regular person and instead making it about me on a personal level.

Cole does a good job here I think:

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Maybe if your dad wasn't such a cheapskate, he would have sprung for the summer course and you could have been valedictorian.

Or you can just keep blaming the coach.

LMAO. You equated having a warrant out for your arrest for not paying a ticket to Rice not being arrested right now. If they charge him he will be arrested and booked l, but you are too stupid to realize the obvious.

Person A gets a ticket...


Asks Person B to take care of it...


Person B doesn't take care of it...


Person A doesn't take care of it...


Person A gets pulled over and sent to Jail...

im gonna steal it from you and make the obvious changes

There are Martha Stewart-sized outliers, but no. The wealthiest among us will be able to afford top tier representation that can devote all their time and resources to helping them evade responsibility for their actions.

Everybody else will have to settle for whatever their month-to-month finances allow, and the least wealthy of us have to rely on public defenders. And these people simply do not have the financial, temporal, or manpower resources that we'd otherwise get in an ideal world. For the wealthiest among us, they are living in that ideal world.

Like you said, the dual track system exists, but it's not just a marginal difference.

This thread is out of control, is this ****er going to jail or not?

Figures that Dog Boy has no clue about the probable cause requirement for an arrest.

Driving on a suspended license with an active warrant… easy probable cause to confirm.

Determining if there is enough evidence to arrest Rashee for driving the vehicle… this has yet to be confirmed and requires an additional investigation.

Rice off the hook yet?

gotta be on the hook to get off

Everyone should let this one go with this statement. If you've never been deployed, you'll never understand.

We can disagree about a lot of things, but someone that tries to get the situation taken care of, but fails to check up on it while being deployed gets a total pass from me.

Thanks for your service Janx.

Only if Person B pay his ticket... ;)

I get it. You were deployed and didn't have 5 minutes to write a check and sent it or go online and pay it before you left... LMAO

In one situation a person goes to jail for a misdemeanor... the other a man walks free after a felony that caused injury and gets to communicate through his lawyer while at home.

Tell ya what... go cause a 6 car injury accident then bail. $50 says police are at your door within 2 hours of identifying you.

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you forgot to capitalize FELONY

Please. 5 minutes to pay a ticket. He should be embarrassed for invoking that excuse. Let alone the notices that he would have received stating he would be arrested.

The only thing Identifying RR at the scene were the cars...


Again, there are No warrants out for him...

Post of the Day! :bravo:

I was actually broke as **** at the time. I was... 21? Deploying for the first time ever. My mother had offered to sort it for me and then promptly forgot.

I'm fairly certain there were no on-line payment options at the time.

I'm sure Janx spent a minimum of 6 months in jail for not paying his ticket.

JFC, this thread is reeruned.

What does any of that have to do with the fact that probable cause has yet to be established, confirming Rashee as the driver?

FS1s Keyshawn Johnson On Rashee Rice: “I know him and he’s old enough to know better. So, I’m passed at him. I’ve already text him and he won’t respond to me because my text was not nice. I tried to get him to understand the life that was getting ready to start. Comint out of SMU he had a little red flag there, he wasn’t the squeakiest cleanest guy going, he witch is why he fell to the 2nd round. But the I’m genuinely mad at him because he knows better, and I know he knows better. I hope somebody stole his car. I have no idea, but if he’s involved in it, it’s the stupidest thing that he could or ever be involved in. All you got to do is look at Henry Ruggs.”

Nothing... Iowa decided to make my statement about me so I'm going along with it.

Nobody gives a shit that you forgot to pay a ticket and got hauled in on a bench warrant. I'm sorry that you had to spend a few hours sorting out your complete inability to be a responsible adult at the age of 21 and make sure your ticket was paid. Now please shut the **** up about your dumb ****ing story that has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.

Racing on a busy highway at high speed and driving along the shoulder causing multiple cars to wreck seems a far cry from jaywalking.

Iowa does... he keeps digging.

Keyshawn is mad at him but then admits he has no idea about Rashee’s level of involvement.

Sounds like Skip Bayless’ AIDS has completely taken hold of him.

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She like, "Apples to oranges"

"Bitch, that phrase don't make no sense, why can't fruit be compared?"

- Lil Dicky

It's hard to wade through because of all the rerun takes but I believe someone posted this a while back. The only thing that should be universally accepted at this point is basically what he is saying that it was incredibly stupid to even put himself in a situation like this.

It's a grey area. Nearly every auto policy has exclusions for damage caused during the commission of a felony. So if he's charged with one, his primary carrier theoretically could deny coverage, as could any insurance purchased through the rental agency.

In practice, however, it's likely his carrier would cover the damages, then immediately non-renew him. And finding another carrier to take him will be both difficult and expensive.

A 23 year old making questionable decisions is not inherently a crime.

then perhaps litigate or pay up with interest if he is not convicted


if its only a bit of damage (doesnt look like the lambo is totaled) they might do like you said and just pay up, and non renew


(for example, if simple math tells them it would eventually cost them 100k to litigate, and they might have to pay up anyway... they'd just pay up and save the 100k)

Monitoring Von Miller as well?

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Rice made a poor decision, it happens at that young age. I know I did alot of dumb stuff that would probably would have ended my ass in jail if caught lol.

With that being said he is going the right away about it now, which is lawyer up, stfu and stay off social media.

I am not utilizing my self appointed CP lawyer expertise at this time and am going to let the actual experts make any determinations that need to be made...

My point is and has been it was unfortunate and stupid that Rashee made some choices that put himself in this situation.

So - best I can figure is TX Trasnp S. 550.021(c) applies here.

You can take 2nd and 3rd degree felony's off the list because they require death (2nd degree) or 'serious bodily injury' as defined by their penal code (3rd degree). Serious bodily injury requires "serious permanent disfigurement, or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any bodily member or organ."

Nothing indicates that is the case at this time.

So that leaves subsection 2 -- any collision that doesn't result in either of the two above. Punishable by not more than 5 years in State jail or a year in county. Fine not to exceed $5,000.

Oddly, it's not identified as a felony, but if its punishable by more than a year in state prison, that's typically classified as a felony offense (at least in Missouri). It looks like in Texas, any offense punishable by confinement in the state pen is a felony, but that's just not how they've written this section even though they expressly referred to felonies and degrees in subsection 1.

I think they reason they specifically did NOT refer to it as a 3rd degree felony is that it appears that the minimum sentence upon conviction of a 3rd degree felony is 2 years. They didn't want that level of floor so they wrote it out of their ordinary statutory scheme. Best guess I've got anyway.

So based on about 5 minutes of digging, it looks like the '10 years' stuff is...well, kinda made up. I'm not seeing that anywhere. I think that's largely because a 3rd degree felony is between 2 and 10 years but this situation (injury but not serious bodily injury as they define it) is specifically written out of that scheme. If they read that this is a possible felony offense and a 3rd degree felony is 2-10 years, that's probably where they got their '10 year' stuff.

Moreover, I think it might leave open the possibility of a misdemeanor charge on the same statute. It feels like they did that on purpose to leave open some prosecutorial discretion here. It's interesting to me that they wrote "or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year" because that's usually the outer bound of a felony charge. You can go to county on a misdemeanor and you can go up to a year on a misdemeanor. So this MIGHT mean that they've given prosecutorial discretion to charge this as a misdemeanor violation and in so doing, simply do it in a way that takes the potential of a prison term (rather than county confinement) off the table.

There are charges that vary between misdemeanor and felony only due to the amount/location of time the prosecutor is looking to get the guy to serve. That's how this looks to me. They get called 'hybrid felonies' a lot of the time in that they can be charged either way.

If I'm guessing, that's what happens here. They might charge him at a felony level (might not) and he pleas down to a misdemeanor on it, gets sentenced to 12 months in county with a suspended sentence.

And all that presumes he was the driver and everyone involved knows it.

I'm confident Royce West will not simply forget and the outcome will be more favorable for Rice. I'm sorry you had to go through that whole ordeal because of your Mother.

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THIS IS NOT HE GOOD!!!!!!!

Eh - that is, IMO, a worst case scenario.

And a 12 month SIS is pretty much dick in the grand scheme of things.

He still good.

Looked like the airbags deployed which means she's likely a goner

We are not.

I'm not 100% certain but I'm about 98% certain that it's a hybrid felony that's chargeable as a misdemeanor based on how they've written that statute.

There's really just no other reason to have written it the way they did.

Goddammit Frozen - where are you to fix my shit? I don't do this criminal crap.

FROZEN!!!!!!

GET IN HERE

That's all great but what does that have to do with driving while suspended? Jesus, stay on topic and don't derail the thread DJ!

Is there any actual new news?

of course not.


Why do you think we are making up all of this BS?

Because you're gay?

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I just told y'all what's gonna happen! I feel like that should qualify...

Weird… the fortunate part of all this is that nobody died.

The dude should know better. Yes, many people speed and race on highways. You’re an adult in the NFL, don’t screw that up. **** around and find out gets the best of everyone.

As a foremost purveyor of BS, I think I'm offended?

lmao if anyone thinks they are locking an NFL player up in county for a ****ing year for getting in an accident where nobody was hurt and they can't prove he was drinking or doing anything else

Again fellas - SIS. A suspended imposition of sentence. You make him do community service and it goes away. He'd never step foot in jail.

No, i don't think he goes to county. I'm not even sure they'll be THAT hard on him. But I think that's probably the outer limit of what may happen.

Got em

Since he has money that community service/suspended sentence may just be a fine.

Rice will be broke from CP billings alone

Can't fine him more than $5K per the statute.

So that wouldn't seem to move the needle much. And after he pays off that $400K lambo and a couple hundred K gets thrown at aggrieved motorists, he's gonna wish he'd have bought a Corolla instead of a Corvette...

How long were you in jail for driving suspended? A couple hours?

Way back in the day I got arrested for driving suspended (not even my fault) and never got booked into the jail. I had released within an hour and this was on a Friday night.

Being self aware is admirable

As has been mentioned, there seems to be a disconnect with people between what actually happened vs what could have happened.

All minor injuries and that's what will drive the punishment, not the hundreds of worse theoreticals that didn't occur.

I've driven my car 130MPH on the highway. Nothing happened, cops never saw me, so I was never charged with anything.

I've played around with a guy in a new Charger RT on the highway, probably hit 120mph. Nothing happened. No charges.

Now I didn't do either of those things on a busy freeway in Dallas because I'm not that stupid.