This made me think of watching Scott Rolen start crying after taking a swing at the plate (post-labrum or whatever). As I recall, he had been completely cleared to play by the Cardinals training staff in that instance.

What are the current thoughts on Oscar Taveras? I am seeing some Cardinals fans who now are pro-trade for Taveras.

I think they're crazy...

Anyone who wants to trade Taveras should be spayed or neutered. Wil Myers, who was not the minor league hitter that Taveras is, is looking like a 5-6 WAR player right now.

Are there more than five players who could give you more surplus value than what Taveras looks to provide?

They've been horrific for as long as I've been actively watching them. All through the LaRussa years our players (sans Albert) were always out longer than initially expected. They were frequently misdiagnosed, and the pitchers broke down at an absolutely preposterous rate.

IMO, that's the one organizational weakness.

RH power bats that are out there:

Jason Bay
Mark Reynolds.

We could really use that pop off the bench.

you were wanting him to be fresh for the playoffs. Now you have the perfect excuse to rest him a start or two.

Especially if Martinez pitched 5-to 6 good innings.

I know but before the season the Profar trade was looking good. RF/1B could be played by Beltran/Craig/Adams

But now Jay has to go, Freese has to go. Holliday is in decline. We need Taveras's offense and play CF.

**** the Dodgers and **** this Ryu guy.

So I'm not watching live, but it seems the dodgers have had a shit ton of infield singles already

Yes, they've really not hit anything hard, he's got in on Dodger hitters consistantly. Just bad luck.

Absolutely preposterous. Of their five hits, one was hit mildly solid, and even that was just a slap hit to the opposite field.

We got ours back, though. Ethier dropped the ball as he took it out of his glove, then lackadaisically tossed it into the IF, over the 2B's head. It then hit off the corner of the base, shot into left field, and Holliday scored during the confusion.

Martinez's command has been spotty at times, but I don't think Johnson is calling nearly enough curveballs. It's a plus-plus pitch, he's getting to two strikes on almost everyone, and he's just having him throw two or four seamers every time.

I never supported that idea. FWIW, WAR is a good metric over the course of a season, but I'll always take the 6 WAR RF in a clutch AB over a 6 WAR SS.

Another grounder that finds a hole :facepalm:

****!!

These mother****ers just have our number. Ellis is a worthless shitbag. Giving up a HR to that two bit ****stain is killer.

A.J.!