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Mr. Plow 12-08-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10260846)
So what should I expect to see from KU on Tuesday when they play Florida?

We're without Damontre Harris and Chris Walker. Both of our PGs (Scottie Wilbekin & Kasey Hill) are banged up and may or may not play. This Gator team will be very different from the team that will be on the court in March.

What about KU? Any major injuries or issues?


Talented youth mixed with inexperience.

Bearcat 12-08-2013 05:16 PM

Terrible 3 point defense and Bill Self prevents them from shooting well, and expect your team to make some miracle 3s and rain down like 35% of them.


Seriously though, they're kind of soft compared to a typical Self team, but they'll learn.

Mr. Plow 12-08-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10260894)
Terrible 3 point defense and Bill Self prevents them from shooting well, and expect your team to make some miracle 3s and rain down like 35% of them.

But, the 5 NBA All Stars we have starting should be able to overcome the horrible 3 point defense.

Bodhi 12-08-2013 06:03 PM

To be a good defender, you have to want to play defense. This team wants to play offense, but what they aren't getting is that with the length, athleticism, and quickness they have, they can not only be a really good defensive team, but it will lead to more offense.

These guys are trying to strip the ball out so they can run the other way and throw down dunks. Guys at this level are too strong with the ball and that's way too lazy and it's leading to fouls. You can't slap your hand down while trying to run the other direction in hopes that the ball will come your way.

Self has to get them to want to be a good defensive team. The youth is showing. He's never had this amount of youth on his team, even with his, "older players."

Tarik Black isn't doing much to help. He needs to stay on the court because his physical presence is really important, but he is one of the worst at fouling.

These guys know how good they can be, so they forget to actually play the game. Self needs to slow them down and focus more on the basics. They are in a tough stretch right now. A win against Florida would be huge for multiple reasons, but if there is a team Kansas has ever had that losses are good for in terms of the later in the year, it's this one.

They will learn so much more from a loss than they will a win. You take things away from a win in the short term. For the sake of the season and the NCAA tournament, the few losses they rack up will be important in understanding how they have to play.

The biggest concern is just the overall toughness of this team.

Reerun_KC 12-08-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10260846)
So what should I expect to see from KU on Tuesday when they play Florida?

We're without Damontre Harris and Chris Walker. Both of our PGs (Scottie Wilbekin & Kasey Hill) are banged up and may or may not play. This Gator team will be very different from the team that will be on the court in March.

What about KU? Any major injuries or issues?

KU likes to jump out to an early lead, then do a lot of fouling the rest of the game...

Chief_For_Life58 12-08-2013 06:20 PM

cu would of been a top 12 team if andre roberson didn't go to the draft last year

Reerun_KC 12-08-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10260894)
Terrible 3 point defense and Bill Self prevents them from shooting well, and expect your team to make some miracle 3s and rain down like 35% of them.


Seriously though, they're kind of soft compared to a typical Self team, but they'll learn.

Cant let it go can you... where's your fire self thread at?

Mr_Tomahawk 12-09-2013 11:51 AM

The Program ‏@theprogramkc3m
RT @GoodmanESPN: Kansas may have lost this past weekend in Colorado, but this was, in fact, a huge victory for KU -- http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff...n/post?id=2609

Any insiders?

Kiimo 12-09-2013 12:51 PM

He should be fired, but at least suspended.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKVwOqK-0T0

Buehler445 12-09-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10263454)
He should be fired, but at least suspended.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKVwOqK-0T0

Jesus. Imus wannabe?

Prison Bitch 12-09-2013 01:06 PM

Good ears, I didn't pick this up live last night

Reerun_KC 12-09-2013 01:07 PM

Lame as his haircut...

doomy3 12-09-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10263286)
The Program ‏@theprogramkc3m
RT @GoodmanESPN: Kansas may have lost this past weekend in Colorado, but this was, in fact, a huge victory for KU -- http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff...n/post?id=2609

Any insiders?

Superstar ability seeping out of Wiggins
December, 9, 2013
DEC 9
12:21 PM ET
By Jeff Goodman | ESPN.com

Andrew Wiggins
John Rieger/USA TODAY Sports


Andrew Wiggins is showing signs of the superstar talent many have been waiting to see.
Bill Self and the Kansas Jayhawks secured a significant victory over the weekend.

I know what you’re thinking, that Kansas came up short on the road against Colorado, that the Jayhawks already lost their second game of the season with a road contest against Florida looming on Tuesday night.

But Self will gladly trade one loss that no one will remember come Big 12 play for this version of Andrew Wiggins.

Let’s face it -- Wiggins is the most hyped player since LeBron James, but he had been somewhat ordinary through the first seven games of his college career, averaging 14.7 PPG.

He’s had his moments -- such as the picturesque step-back jumper in Chicago against Duke, and the high-flying breakaway dunks. But for the most part, he has not looked the part of the presumptive No. 1 overall pick or a future NBA star. That changed in the second half of the Jayhawks' loss to Tad Boyle’s Colorado Buffaloes.

“He can be as good as he wants to be,” Boyle said after his team's victory. “He’s that talented.”

Wiggins was explosive. He was assertive. He was active on both ends. He ran hard and competed on just about every possession and was virtually unstoppable when he touched the ball with the intent of driving to the basket. That is the Wiggins who has NBA types gushing, and that is also the Wiggins who is necessary in order for Kansas to cut down the nets come April.

Self has a nice forward in Perry Ellis whose game is understated, yet extremely effective. He has a talented, strong shooting guard in freshman Wayne Selden who will be a terrific complementary piece once he begins to figure it all out. Self has a super-skilled, yet raw 7-footer in Joel Embiid who has already drawn comparisons to former NBA star Hakeem Olajuwon with his array of post moves.

“It’s ridiculous,” Boyle said of Embiid, who has only been playing the sport for a few years. “Unfathomable. You can’t guard him with one guy.”

No disrespect to Embiid and the rest of the Jayhawks, but no one is capable of taking this team to another level.

Except for Wiggins.

The point guard situation, one that already has forced Self to make an adjustment in the starting lineup, is still a question mark. Naadir Tharpe was the incumbent and the starter for the first seven contests, but freshman Frank Mason -- a one-time Towson signee -- got the call in Boulder on Saturday. Mason was solid, finishing with 11 points, dishing out four assists with just two turnovers.

Wayne Selden
Denny Medley/USA TODAY Sports
Wayne Selden is talented but still figuring out the college game.
But the point guards don’t exactly make it easier for Wiggins, who thrives in transition and could get a couple of more easy buckets with a top-notch floor leader. Wiggins is finding life tougher without Tyler Ennis getting him easy looks, which was the case back in the summertime when the duo played together on the AAU circuit.

Boyle played at Kansas. If he’s pulling for anyone except for his Buffs, it’s Self and the Jayhawks.

“They could be ridiculous,” Boyle said. “They have Final Four talent. No question about it, but they’re young.”

Wiggins, Embiid, Selden and Mason are all freshmen. Ellis is just a sophomore.

This team is still finding its way, figuring itself out -- and Wiggins remains a work in progress. He’ll have his dominant performances, such as the second 20 minutes against Colorado, and he’ll also have the six-point outings like he did against UTEP.

“Sometimes he just seems content to blend in,” one high-ranking NBA executive told me just a few days ago.

But Wiggins wanted the ball in the second half on Saturday, and once he got it with the intent to make a play, Spencer Dinwiddie and the rest of the Buffs were left helpless.

“There’s not much you can do,” Boyle said.

saphojunkie 12-09-2013 01:55 PM

Here's the embed:

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FishingRod 12-09-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10257076)
I really don't care if it was late jan or into feb or now, there's no excuse for losing to ****ing Colorado.


Remind me, how did MU do the last time they played a team from Colorado?


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