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BigRedChief 08-09-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9871472)
Here is what you're proposing:

Wong+Carpenter+RH Bench bat > Wong, Freese, Carpenter

That's poor value. My idea allows the Cardinals to rest Holliday, Craig, and Freese, none of whom are pictures of health, while never sabotaging the lineup with a Shane Robinson or Ty Wigginton to do so. Furthermore, you aren't Profaring Wong in this example.

Freese will play all the time. Holliday will play all the time. No way Matheny cuts back their playing time. Surely we can get a better RH bat off the bench this off season.
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9871472)
Furthermore, you aren't Profaring Wong in this example.

I'm 100% down with trading Wong. I get it. But it's nice to have seven above average-great ML hitters for six spots than six, especially when you can parcel out ABs like that.

You know the market and other teams way better than myself.

Is there any SS's out there worth trading our top guys for? And if so who and what would it take?

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-09-2013 06:04 PM

Freese has played more than 100 games once. His high is 144 in 2012. Has he ever had a season in the bigs when he wasn't on the DL?

Holliday is a 33 year old who just got off the DL. He's been pretty durable save 2011, but he's also a declining player who could use the rest and who would still get several ABs off the bench. He only has 92 starts this year out of 110 games.

These are problems that solve themselves, because Freese's body definitely can't handle a full season of wear, and Holliday's will become less and less likely.

As far as shortstops, you could try and buy low on an intra-divisional trade for Starlin Castro. The Cubs have a SS who is raking in High A, but he's not likely in Chicago for two years. Assdribble Cabrera is likely going to be a trade target in the offseason because the Indians have a really good prospect breathing down his neck, and he's a FA after 2014.

There isn't much out there.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-09-2013 06:30 PM

Eighty-nine belt high on the inside corner and we reverse K two ABs in a row. And you wonder why this team can't hit LHP :facepalm:

Mi_chief_fan 08-09-2013 06:52 PM

I have a feeling they'll end up beating this one like a drum.

Mi_chief_fan 08-09-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 9872056)
I have a feeling they'll end up beating this one like a drum.

Or not. Good lord.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-09-2013 07:52 PM

It's just too damned easy to keep a team scoreless when they have no home run power. This guy has left a lot of pitches up and the Cardinals are completely incapable of driving them over the wall.

O.city 08-09-2013 07:53 PM

Did Craig just miss one?

Jewish Rabbi 08-09-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9872586)
Did Craig just miss one?

If by just miss one, you mean hit a ball to the track that never looked like it was going out, then yes.

kcpasco 08-09-2013 08:01 PM

Pit getting crushed tonight and the Cards cant push 1 damn run across.

kcpasco 08-09-2013 08:10 PM

Oh JFC enough with Kozma. The guy cannot hit at this level.

kcpasco 08-09-2013 08:14 PM

Late inning tight ball game. This is where we find a way to lose.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-09-2013 08:15 PM

Jesus ****...that you would even need a conference for that...


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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 9872777)
Late inning tight ball game. This is where we find a way to lose.

P. much

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-09-2013 08:17 PM

And now Lynn has gone Section 8

kcpasco 08-09-2013 08:18 PM

Lynn has pitched well tonight but its time to pull him

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-09-2013 08:19 PM

Matheny sitting on his ass too long again.


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