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Megatron96 11-25-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16626104)
Jones sounds like a guy who is worthy of a top contract at his position. I don't see where Wall crawler's problem is.

:popcorn:

Coochie liquor 11-25-2022 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16626104)
Jones sounds like a guy who is worthy of a top contract at his position. I don't see where Wall crawler's problem is.

Cullen has unlocked CJ. Love how much more aggressive our DL looks this year. Even the Shark looks better. That hire may be the thing that propels us to the SB.

tredadda 11-25-2022 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16626205)
Cullen has unlocked CJ. Love how much more aggressive our DL looks this year. Even the Shark looks better. That hire may be the thing that propels us to the SB.

Where was Cullen before this year? Too lazy to look it up.

Coochie liquor 11-25-2022 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16626210)
Where was Cullen before this year? Too lazy to look it up.

Jags, he put that 6 point game in Allen last year.

tredadda 11-25-2022 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16626211)
Jags, he put that 6 point game in Allen last year.

Thank you.

Wallcrawler 11-25-2022 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16626104)
Jones sounds like a guy who is worthy of a top contract at his position. I don't see where Wall crawler's problem is.

Here, let me help you with that.

Chris Jones, playing for the Kansas City Chiefs, has had the opportunity to play, to quote our friend jettio, "Tackle football as it is played at the NFL PLAYOFF level" 10 times.

2018. 2 games. 0 tackles. 0 sacks. 4 pass deflections.

2019. 2 games. 3 tackles. 0 sacks 3 pass deflections. 2 hurries.

2020. 3 games. 9 tackles. 0 sacks 3 hurries.

2021. 3 games. 6 tackles (2 for loss!!!!!!!) 0 sacks 2 hurries.

That's TEN playoff games with 18 tackles 0 sacks 7 hurries, and 7 pass deflections.

That's good for an average of 0 sacks 1.8 tackles, 0.7 batted balls, and 0.7 hurries per playoff game.

Is that good? Is that highest paid defender in the league production? Is it even the 60 million guaranteed he got production? I sure don't think so.

By comparison, through 10 regular season games this year he has 9 sacks.

Regular season heroes can be fun to watch. But you get paid the huge money for what you can do in the post season. It sure does look like the funds for his playoff performances have been grossly misallocated.

For a dude referring to himself as "Sack Nation" he sure doesn't live up to that when the lights are brightest.


We expect Mahomes to be superman in the post season. We expect Kelce to beast guys and score tds.

For some reason, Chris Jones gets a pass for absolute mediocrity in the playoffs.

Maybe this year is his year. Playoff game eleven and beyond, to finally bring down a qb in the post season.

Coochie liquor 11-25-2022 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16626225)
Here, let me help you with that.

Chris Jones, playing for the Kansas City Chiefs, has had the opportunity to play, to quote our friend jettio, "Tackle football as it is played at the NFL PLAYOFF level" 10 times.

2018. 2 games. 0 tackles. 0 sacks. 4 pass deflections.

2019. 2 games. 3 tackles. 0 sacks 3 pass deflections. 2 hurries.

2020. 3 games. 9 tackles. 0 sacks 3 hurries.

2021. 3 games. 6 tackles (2 for loss!!!!!!!) 0 sacks 2 hurries.

That's TEN playoff games with 18 tackles 0 sacks 7 hurries, and 7 pass deflections.

That's good for an average of 0 sacks 1.8 tackles, 0.7 batted balls, and 0.7 hurries per playoff game.

Is that good? Is that highest paid defender in the league production? Is it even the 60 million guaranteed he got production? I sure don't think so.

By comparison, through 10 regular season games this year he has 9 sacks.

Regular season heroes can be fun to watch. But you get paid the huge money for what you can do in the post season. It sure does look like the funds for his playoff performances have been grossly misallocated.

For a dude referring to himself as "Sack Nation" he sure doesn't live up to that when the lights are brightest.


We expect Mahomes to be superman in the post season. We expect Kelce to beast guys and score tds.

For some reason, Chris Jones gets a pass for absolute mediocrity in the playoffs.

Maybe this year is his year. Playoff game eleven and beyond, to finally bring down a qb in the post season.

I’m disappointed with his playoff stats as well, but his DC was Sutton, then when we got Spags he had a DL coach who obviously wasn’t getting the most out of his guys. Now that Cullen is the DL coach, he’s beasting. DCs and DL coaches have a lot to do with how players play the game.

Chiefspants 11-25-2022 05:54 PM

Chris Jones had a legit argument for Super Bowl MVP and anyone who replies with "BUT HE ONLY HAD A QB HIT AND THREE PASS DEFLECTIONS" doesn't understand football.

FIGHT ME.

Pitt Gorilla 11-25-2022 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16626252)
Chris Jones had a legit argument for Super Bowl MVP and anyone who replies with "BUT HE ONLY HAD A QB HIT AND THREE PASS DEFLECTIONS" doesn't understand football.

FIGHT ME.

Agree completely. He took over the 4th quarter.

Wallcrawler 11-25-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16626247)
I’m disappointed with his playoff stats as well, but his DC was Sutton, then when we got Spags he had a DL coach who obviously wasn’t getting the most out of his guys. Now that Cullen is the DL coach, he’s beasting. DCs and DL coaches have a lot to do with how players play the game.

He does look much better this year, and with 7 games to go is like 5 tackles away from matching his total production from last year.

I don't remember how many games he missed for the wrist last year, one or two, but he's been infinitely better this year, and has had numerous game changing plays this year that we just didn't see last year or the year before. He had the big 4 sack game on prescott and a shitty Cowboys team, and outside of that got 5 sacks in the rest of the games.

Before he hurt Ryan's feelings, he'd ended that game at Indy. That shit was flat out finished.

Sack fumble on Carr that ignited a fury at Arrowhead I've not seen in a looong time.

Huge sack on Herbert's attempt to copycat Mahomes rush up the middle on their final drive.

If this Chris Jones shows up in the playoffs, it's going to be a massive boost to the team.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-25-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16626305)
Agree completely. He took over the 4th quarter.

Without Chris Jones, we lose that football game 27-17 or something similar.

Chiefshrink 11-25-2022 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16626336)
Without Chris Jones, we lose that football game 27-17 or something similar.

BINGO !!!

Megatron96 11-26-2022 01:10 AM

Interesting analysis first of the rookies on defense, then the rookies on offense:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lP-CwWk73xY" title="How the YOUNG Chiefs Defense Has Been KEY in Big Wins This Year" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bump 11-26-2022 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16626252)
Chris Jones had a legit argument for Super Bowl MVP and anyone who replies with "BUT HE ONLY HAD A QB HIT AND THREE PASS DEFLECTIONS" doesn't understand football.

FIGHT ME.

he should be a legit shot for the hall of fame

Bump 11-26-2022 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16626252)
Chris Jones had a legit argument for Super Bowl MVP and anyone who replies with "BUT HE ONLY HAD A QB HIT AND THREE PASS DEFLECTIONS" doesn't understand football.

FIGHT ME.

he should be a legit shot for the hall of fame


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