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****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread***** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=330824)

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16525701)

Guys like Kenyan Drake, James Conner and Sony Michel have been freely available the last 2 seasons and have all had better production over that timespan than Clyde has had.

The Chiefs made no effort whatsoever to bring Darrel Williams back and he was showing himself to be superior to CEH in passing situations and equally bleh running the ball.

If they had invested in Clyde what they invested in Darrel (which is to say - nothing), I don't think he'd be here anymore. Frankly, he'd have never have gotten the amount of opportunities he's gotten to this point, or will evidently continue to get.

He's the living embodiment of divestiture aversion.

I don't care what fantasy stats James Conner put up last year.

I don't think I've EVER seen that guy have a single carry where I go, "Wow nice run." CEH has had a few, even if they're just nice and not spectacular.

Just based on the eye test, I think Conner is one of the worst current or former starting RBs still playing in the NFL.

James Conner is basically Mike Cloud with a cancer survival story and more opportunities to fart on the field with his incredible sub-4.0 career YPC.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16525493)

Not sure why he continues to be RB1… he does nothing better than McKinnon or Pacheco.

I kinda expect some increased usage of Pacheco and Skyy against the Bills.

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16525958)

4.5 YPC terrible

In 2021 the avg YPC was 4.3...and that even includes QBs who skew the results like Lamar and Jalen Hurts.

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16525958)

4.5 YPC terrible

Honestly,

Yeah it is, now pull his YPA when it’s 2nd and short or 3rd and short

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16526272)

Honestly,

Yeah it is, now pull his YPA when it’s 2nd and short or 3rd and short

Let's find anything we can to back up our argument! 4.5 ypc and 5 tds that sucks we should trade for Christian McCaffery

Sucks:
https://www.footballdb.com/statistic...on?sort=rectds

You know guys we can win the Super Bowl with running back by committee the way Andy is doing it. You guys still going knock him when he contributes to winning the Super Bowl?

McKinnon is absolutely great and can make teams pay. However the draw back to McKinnon is he is 30yo that's pushing 60 in Running Back years. Although he is still effective but effective as relief pitcher. He is not going hold up 4 quarters and I think Andy is trying save him for the playoffs and he will be fresh that way. Let the younger backs do the work for the brunt of the season.

Clyde would have had better gains had Trey Smith suited up.

McKinnon is an explosive back but he loses his burst the more you play him.

Clyde sucks big dicks. His 9 Carrie’s for 15 yards were a waste of snaps

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Originally Posted by threebag (Post 16526302)

Clyde sucks big dicks. His 9 Carrie’s for 15 yards were a waste of snaps

It’s too late now but I wanted Swift.

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16526291)

You know guys we can win the Super Bowl with running back by committee the way Andy is doing it. You guys still going knock him when he contributes to winning the Super Bowl?

Yes

I'm not a huge fan of CEH, but this coaching staff does not do him any favors. He will never be an outsize zone RB because of his speed, yet they keep calling it. He's not even a good zone-read RB because of his lack of vision.

Why this team refuses to switch to a primarily gap or power-based run scheme is irritating. They have the line to do it and it fits CEH so much better.

Not sure Andy looks at it the way most people do.

I'm thinking Andy is thinking more like this.

CEH - 5.24
Jet - 5.19
Pacheco - 4.78

That is the number of yards per touch.

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16526291)

You know guys we can win the Super Bowl with running back by committee the way Andy is doing it. You guys still going knock him when he contributes to winning the Super Bowl?

I miss the running backs by committee. 1999 was my favorite:

Donnell Bennett
Bam Morris
Rashaan Shehee
Mike Cloud