ChiefsPlanet - Royals ***Official 2023 Royals Season Repository Thread***

If you want proof of regime and approach change, Ragans is a good example.

For the Royals to acquire a pitcher and seemingly fix him by getting him to ditch a bad pitch according to pitch data (his cutter) and replace it with a SLIDER?

I mean, this is an organization that has been weirdly anti-slider in pitching development ranks, forcing guys to throw curves instead of sliders in the low minors even if they had developed a good slider already.

“Master the curveball first, then you can work on the slider” has been the org’s mantra in the past.

Yeah I remember that shit. Also how they gave guys very little choice in what they can do. It's nice to see that the slider was a suggestion from the player and not something forced on him. Those ****ing idiots couldn't develop a pitcher to save their lives, so you'd think they'd change that approach.

GabyKeepsMeWarm

08-08-2023 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 17047180)

I know it doesn't matter, but that first base umpire decided this game. What a crock of shit.

Yeah, 2nd time in 3 days that we get boned by the umps at a critical moment in the game... Blarg...

Ocotillo

08-08-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17046004)

Hot take. Royals will pass the White Sox in standings by the end of the year

Fangraphs gives the Royals a better team quality rating than the White Sox in its latest power rankings. Royals' defense is superior to the White Sox, which is the difference.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/fangraph...y-31-august-6/

BWillie

08-08-2023 01:02 PM

Wtf did Ragans do from 2017 to 2021? Hurt entire time or what

Mecca

08-08-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17047905)

Wtf did Ragans do from 2017 to 2021? Hurt entire time or what

He's had 2 Tommy John Surgeries.

BWillie

08-08-2023 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17047910)

He's had 2 Tommy John Surgeries.

Lol

Mecca

08-08-2023 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17047958)

Lol

Which is a huge reason people shouldn't get all amped up, the odds he can ever throw a lot of innings isn't high.

jettio

08-08-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17047187)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ht" dir="ltr">Lol ok <a href="https://t.co/ptbiXbKScC">pic.twitter.com/ptbiXbKScC</a></p>— Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1688730642777804801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What are the analytics of umpires not being able to make calls when home team is wearing yellow highlighter jerseys, gloves and socks?

dlphg9

08-08-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17047960)

Which is a huge reason people shouldn't get all amped up, the odds he can ever throw a lot of innings isn't high.

I'd be concerned if it sapped his power or something, but dude was slinging a 97 MPH fastball on his 95th pitch or something like that. Also it's been several years since he's had the surgery and hasn't had any issues since with his arm.

Mecca

08-08-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17048011)

TJ surgery usually improves velocity, the problem is doing it twice means it could easily happen again.

dlphg9

08-08-2023 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17048014)

TJ surgery usually improves velocity, the problem is doing it twice means it could easily happen again.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/t...ng-popularity/

It's helping you, because you're no longer pitching with a damaged UCL, but it doesn't increase base velocity.

dlphg9

08-08-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17048014)

TJ surgery usually improves velocity, the problem is doing it twice means it could easily happen again.

I also don't think you know the details of why he had it twice. Either the team or he probably pushed it too hard during recovery and he suffered a tear in the graft less than a year after he had it done, so it happened during rehab. The chances of him having TJ surgery again are as low as they are with anyone else. It just seems you have a narrative you want to push like usual.

Mecca

08-08-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17048044)

Look a 27 year old pitcher that basically aged out of being a prospect and has had 2 TJ's is extremely risky. It's not something where you just go oh yea this guy is fine.

The Royals pitching cupboard is bare as **** so I get it but this is the type of guy where any thing you get should be considered a bonus not expected.

Their pitching going into next year looks really really bad so hey I understand.

ChiefsCountry

08-08-2023 05:04 PM

Greinke to the DL. Taylor Hearn is up from Omaha

WhawhaWhat

08-08-2023 05:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Baseball in gladiator mode ⚔️<a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WelcomeToTheCity?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WelcomeToTheCity</a> <a href="https://t.co/1TXZPi0w4G">pic.twitter.com/1TXZPi0w4G</a></p>— MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1689034803922825216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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