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Chiefnj2 04-09-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5654919)
There are plenty of guys to pick, some of you have just pigeonholed yourselves into Curry cause you're cool with the safe thing or you read a bunch of mocks and went "well everyone has us taking him I'm on board!"

That must be it. It has nothing to do with the fact that he did what he was asked to do in college exceptionally well, that he stood out at the combine, that he has no character issues, he is a very good athlete, that his workouts have gone well, etc. It's all because of Mayock!

Mecca 04-09-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5655010)
There's plenty of other options. We still don't have any idea what trade scenarios will present themselves.

That's kind of been the main argument of the Curry crowd, not that he's awesome. That he's safe and there's no one else to pick.

Chiefnj2 04-09-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5655008)
Except any shred of proof that he can actually do it. There's just that little thing.

He wasn't asked to do it often. You can see him rush on occasion in highlights. Since they are highlights, he looks good rushing. I'm sure teams have game tape and can see how many times he was asked to rush and how he actually did. Even if he can't rush all that well, you have a prospect that should be able to play MLB like Patrick Willis.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5655012)
That must be it. It has nothing to do with the fact that he did what he was asked to do in college exceptionally well, that he stood out at the combine, that he has no character issues, he is a very good athlete, that his workouts have gone well, etc. It's all because of Mayock!

Well, since Pettigrew did it all so well in college, why not make him a Left Tackle on 3rd down and a #2 burner on 1st and 2nd down.

kcbubb 04-09-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5654937)
For trade value he isnt dumbass.

oh yeah. nobody trades up for lineman. especially left tackles???? value is value. and in this draft, I'm guessing Monroe will have more trade value than Sanchez.

Several teams need a LT right now that are in the top 10. The Seahawks could be a playoff team and I don't see them taking a QB that will be on the bench. The Jags have lots of holes and they Garrard, who I think Del Rio really likes. San Fran already has a lot invested in Smith and I think Singletary likes Hill too. Denver has Orton and Chris Simms who both have starting experience and Simms does have some ability.

The team that really needs Sanchez is the New York Jets. They really need him, but moving from 17 to 3 ain't gonna happen. So, yes I believe that Monroe has more trade value than Sanchez because of where teams are selecting in this draft.

ok genius.... please refute my argument. please enlighten me with your brilliance.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5655040)
Well, since Pettigrew did it all so well in college, why not make him a Left Tackle on 3rd down and a #2 burner on 1st and 2nd down.

Don't be stupid Hamas. We are going to get that player in Germain Gresham with our first round pick next year.

philfree 04-09-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5655010)
There's plenty of other options. We still don't have any idea what trade scenarios will present themselves.

I'm all for trading down.


PhilFree:arrow:

kcbubb 04-09-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5654879)
His arms are too short and he has no pass rushing moves, nor any experience rushing the passer. Other than that, nothing.

I thought you guys didn't like the safe pick. How can Curry be too risky and safe all in one???? Curry does have the upside of playing outside, but it is a risk.

Mecca 04-09-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655065)
Don't be stupid Hamas. We are going to get that player in Germain Gresham with our first round pick next year.

Can you atleast spell his name properly if you're going to pimp him?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5655045)
oh yeah. nobody trades up for lineman. especially left tackles???? value is value. and in this draft, I'm guessing Monroe will have more trade value than Sanchez.

Several teams need a LT right now that are in the top 10. The Seahawks could be a playoff team and I don't see them taking a QB that will be on the bench. The Jags have lots of holes and they Garrard, who I think Del Rio really likes. San Fran already has a lot invested in Smith and I think Singletary likes Hill too. Denver has Orton and Chris Simms who both have starting experience and Simms does have some ability.

The team that really needs Sanchez is the New York Jets. They really need him, but moving from 17 to 3 ain't gonna happen. So, yes I believe that Monroe has more trade value than Sanchez because of where teams are selecting in this draft.

ok genius.... please refute my argument. please enlighten me with your brilliance.

Well, first of all, there are 7 LTs with first round grades this year, and 3 QBs, and of the teams picking in the top half of the first round, the only ones with a definite need for LT are:

Detroit, St. Louis, Oakland, Cincy, and Jacksonville.

Combine that with the fact that there are 10-12 tackles with 1st or second round grades, and the fact that there were 7 other tackles taken in the first round last year, and several other teams still have a LT entrenched, and that there are only 3 QBs with second round grades, and yeah, I'd say the LT supply outweighs the demand.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5655072)
Can you atleast spell his name properly if you're going to pimp him?

Sorry Mecca.

GermainE

htismaqe 04-09-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5655038)
Even if he can't rush all that well, you have a prospect that should be able to play MLB like Patrick Willis.

That's not good value for the #3 pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5655068)
I thought you guys didn't like the safe pick. How can Curry be too risky and safe all in one???? Curry does have the upside of playing outside, but it is a risk.

If you draft him to play OLB, he's a horribly risky pick with little upside at 3

If you draft him to play ILB, he's a safe pick with little impact on the field.

If you draft him at #3, you're an idiot. Period.

Mecca 04-09-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655081)
Sorry Mecca.

GermainE

His name starts with a J fool, it's nice that you didn't get it right...for the 2nd time.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655081)
Sorry Mecca.

JermainE

dipshit.


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