Think like the GM of a team who has an empty stadium and a quarterback who is being questioned.

We can agree to disagree here. I don't see things that way at all.

Without talent, it's not going to make much difference, Dane.

If you haven't noticed, with rare exception, the guys that stand out at OC and DC also have a shit-ton of talent on their squads.

Whoa. Easy there tiger. On average, about 5 players in every second round become pro bowl players. Probably a little over half become contributors. But the vast majority become average rotational starters at best. Let's not exaggerate here. The majority of the people we're yelling about not taking are going to be average rotational guys at best.

It's not nearly the same as Tyson Jackson, where you could easily argue that you passed up on a clear-cut solid starter.

You're totally dismissing the possibility that a person's initial reaction may have been uninformed. If I hadn't taken the time to study Jimmy Clausen highlights I would have probably taken your word for it that he was worth the fifth overall pick. There is nothing wrong with checking one's self to make sure he or she is better informed before spouting off about a topic.

When I first heard the commissioner say "Dexter McCluster," I had a holy shit moment. I knew who he was and that he was highly regarded but I was totally caught off guard. After about an hour of investigation and further research I was very happy with the pick. But my contentment was not the result of rationalization as much as it was being pleasantly surprised once I took the time to educate myself.

As a defense mechanism, rationalization is a very real phenomenon. And when people employ it they are generally unaware they are doing so. However, you cannot randomly accuse people of rationalization simply because they reconsider their initial reaction. After all, the initial reaction may have been a knee-jerk reaction while a change of heart may have been based on a conscientious effort to gather further information.

Some might suggest that the manner in which you attack those with whom you disagree is a form of displacement. That said, by trying to be too clever you often do a disservice to your own arguments, IMHO.

I disagree with the notion that this is "scary".

Both positions were positions of great need. If the Chiefs had a McCluster and Arenas type player currently on the roster and chose players identical to those guys while ignoring the need at ILB and NT, I'd agree. But that certainly was not the case.

He made a decision that a QB/RB/WR would add more to the team than an ILB or NT at #36. He made the decision at #50 that a KR/Nickel Back was more important at this point in time than a ILB or NT.

In my opinion, neither choice is right or wrong. It's six of one, half a dozen of the other and I'm not going to rake him over the coals for adding dynamic playmakers.

Explain to me how you can see it any other way?

Last year he thought the OL would be just fine as is.

This year, he thinks the front 7 will be fine as is.

Nevermind that he used high picks on positions that he drafted just LAST YEAR.

More than likely, the results are going to be eerily similar.

So what I'm getting from you and Mecca is that coaches really don't matter?

And the only guy we passed on that wouldn't have been a reach at 2a was an OLB with a legitimate injury concern.

You can't walk in with tunnel-vision and draft by need for the position you want. That's what got us in trouble by taking Tyson Jackson. The Chiefs took a guy that was on the top of their board and probably at the top of a lot of teams' boards.

You're arguing for a needs-based draft over BPA. You can have preference over one method or the other, sure, but taking BPA is usually the way to go beyond the first round.

Well, something has to give.

The people defending the McCluster pick say he's always be on the field because we're going to be in a lot of 3-wide formations.

Those same people then defend the Moeaki pick by saying we're going to be in a lot of 2 TE formations.

Do the math.

I'm beginning to think I'm one of only people that don't see this as a one year rebuilding program.

Quite honestly, I don't see anything special about Cam Thomas or Cody or Lee or Washington that can't be found in any draft, any year.

What I did see in this draft was a special guy like McCluster, who could line up and produce at any given skill position. I saw a cornerback that was also the nation's best returner.

He chose those guys because he believes that they're special players and playmakers and I have no problem with that.

Ok.

Offense sells tickets so we are going to be putting up alot of points with no D?

He used a high pick. Not picks. The only one affected by this was Donald Washington.

I see it as he wants playmakers on the field. I'm not going to cry about Sean Lee not coming here when he couldn't stay on the field at Penn State or Cody. I don't think either of those guys were going to make us a better front 7.

I don't think anyone knows for certain how Weis will line his guys up week after week but I most certainly expect to see Moeaki and McCluster on the field for the majority of the time.

If we're not putting up a lot of points, Pioli will look terrible.

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