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jjchieffan 08-31-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13045737)
More proof that the LG position is a dumpster fire. Ehinger and Witzmann won't even be on this roster next year.

Excellent trade. Erving sucked at LT but I bet he can plug in at guard and be a big upgrade immediately.

This is some more stupid crap. The sig I made for you fits you perfectly. Do you just try to be wrong constantly? Seriously. Ehinger won the starting guard position as a rookie. He needed to bulk up, but still showed enough to win the job immediately and you think he won't be on the team next year?? That is beyond dumb.

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13047417)
And depodesta is a moneyball guy. Its fair to ask if he's trying to prove that he can win on value picks. Maybe he can. But there's clearly an agenda.

"Moneyball" doesn't and can't exist in the NFL.

What Podesta and Sashi Brown are doing is the wave of the now.

Jon Robinson, the Titans GM, is doing the same exact thing: Stockpiling picks to use as ammo for the draft's most talented players each year, then move those picks forward if your "guy" isn't available at the slot.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised it took this long for "tanking" and trading picks to hit the NFL, but then again, it's run by a bunch of old farts.

Rausch 08-31-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13047424)
Ehinger won the starting guard position as a rookie. He needed to bulk up, but still showed enough to win the job immediately and you think he won't be on the team next year?? That is beyond dumb.

Ehinger was a clear upgrade over what we had at the time.

Erving is a guy who's upside is far more than that of Ehinger (should he actually stay healthy and stay at G) and we gave up nothing for him.

At worst we added depth to an area of our squad that had almost none (O line.)

It's a smart deal and our Doogie Howser GM is looking pretty good right now...

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2017 11:09 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Terms: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lions?src=hash">#Lions</a> trade guard Laken Tomlinson to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash">#49ers</a> for a 5th rounder in 2019, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo">@MikeGarafolo</a> and me.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/903291582828380160">August 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The Franchise 08-31-2017 11:12 AM

Is it me....or is there just a huge amount of trades happening this season? Maybe because the cut down has been changed now.

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13047463)
Is it me....or is there just a huge amount of trades happening this season? Maybe because the cut down has been changed now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tomlinson trade to the 49ers makes 12 deals this month, the most trades in the month of August in the last decade</p>&mdash; Evan Kaplan (@EpKap) <a href="https://twitter.com/EpKap/status/903293842140655616">August 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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oldman 08-31-2017 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13047463)
Is it me....or is there just a huge amount of trades happening this season? Maybe because the cut down has been changed now.

I think you're right about the trades. I think the single cut down has forced many GMs into hedging their bets on who would be available on waivers.

SAUTO 08-31-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13046456)
lol That wasn't Landon Collins. That was Tunsil.

ROFLsilly me

DaneMcCloud 08-31-2017 11:33 AM

NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

Rausch 08-31-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13047532)
NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

And teams that lose tend to get higher picks that tend to play for teams that lose that tend to change coaching staffs and then players aren't a fit.

O.city 08-31-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13047532)
NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

Only one cut down day as well, guys are flipping picks for guys they want instead of chancing wavers

Quesadilla Joe 08-31-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13047532)
NFL GM's are simply realizing that late round picks have far less value and far less of a chance to make the 53, than former 1st round players that have higher ceilings but haven't found early success.

A "change of scenery" is often needed for these types of guys.

How many first round busts turn it around elsewhere?

I know these guys didn't... Brandon Weeden, Jonathan Cooper, Jason Smith, A.J. Jenkins, Jonathan Baldwin, Aaron Maybin, Josh Freeman, Amobi Okoye, Brady Quinn, Jarvis Moss, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, etc.

keg in kc 08-31-2017 12:05 PM

The change in the cut down process is probably responsible for some of these trades. There's a possibility for a crazy amount of waver wire activity on Saturday, with something like a thousand players being released, and I think teams are making trades ahead of the deadline this year that may not have happened in the past.

Chiefshrink 08-31-2017 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13047523)
I think you're right about the trades. I think the single cut down has forced many GMs into hedging their bets on who would be available on waivers.

BINGO !!!

Chiefshrink 08-31-2017 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13047583)
The change in the cut down process is probably responsible for some of these trades. There's a possibility for a crazy amount of waver wire activity on Saturday, with something like a thousand players being released, and I think teams are making trades ahead of the deadline this year that may not have happened in the past.

As competitive as Veach has been you wonder how many players on other teams he is still salivating for to pick up that will probably be cut.


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