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DaneMcCloud 04-16-2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 14912383)
Yeah. But 5 picks and 1 Lombardi beats what 31 other teams have. :)

Well, certainly.

But this class is loaded with players that could help the Chiefs immediately, so it would have been nice to head into this offseason with a full compliment of draft picks, if for no other reason than to use a 5th, 6th or 7th as ammo for trading up.

I still think there will be plenty of talent left at #32, and maybe even a QB, making a trade back and extra picks a real possibility.

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14912413)
Probably early for Van Jefferson. No way in hell Justin Jefferson is there at 32 much less the second.

People say these things every year, only to have the board fall very differently.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-16-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14912429)
I like them better than Johnson and Diggs, though Johnson isn’t far behind.

Diggs is a guy that I love/hate. He could be anywhere from 4-7 in my rankings. I just haven’t seen enough tape.

For me Diggs depends on his 40. As long as he's 4.50 or under I'd probably take him before Johnson, but it would be a coin flip.

staylor26 04-16-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14912441)
Well, certainly.

But this class is loaded with players that could help the Chiefs immediately, so it would have been nice to head into this offseason with a full compliment of draft picks, if for no other reason than to use a 5th, 6th or 7th as ammo for trading up.

I still think there will be plenty of talent left at #32, and maybe even a QB, making a trade back and extra picks a real possibility.

I’ve said it before, but we’re getting 2-3 comp picks next year, so we can use some 2021 picks knowing we will get some back.

staylor26 04-16-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 14912448)
For me Diggs depends on his 40. As long as he's 4.50 or under I'd probably take him before Johnson, but it would be a coin flip.

Yea that’s another issue with him. We didn’t see him run or anything.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-16-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14912441)
Well, certainly.

But this class is loaded with players that could help the Chiefs immediately, so it would have been nice to head into this offseason with a full compliment of draft picks, if for no other reason than to use a 5th, 6th or 7th as ammo for trading up.

I still think there will be plenty of talent left at #32, and maybe even a QB, making a trade back and extra picks a real possibility.

Oh hell yes. Don't remember a draft with this much talent available from #32 through the end of the 4th. I would love to see us trade back about 10 spots and pick up an extra 3rd or 4th.

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14912449)
I’ve said it before, but we’re getting 2-3 comp picks next year, so we can use some 2021 picks knowing we will get some back.

The Chiefs may indeed receive two comp picks next year but man, that's a risky move to make in the draft, especially knowing how the NFL has treated the Chiefs in prior years regarding Comp Picks.

I don't care what anyone says, a 6th rounder for the Super Bowl MVP is still the most absurd Comp Pick I've seen since the NFL began awarding them in 1994.

ToxSocks 04-16-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14912180)
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If you can watch that and tell me he can't make anything happen I'm not sure what you're looking at.

Nope, i don't like it over Edward Helaire.

To say he can't make something out of nothing was an overstatement, i meant to say "in comparison to these other backs"

I get it, he's got his fans. He's not a bad player. He's been hyped for years. I just think Helaire and Taylor will be better NFL backs.

staylor26 04-16-2020 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14912459)
Nope, i don't like it over Edward Helaire.

To say he can't make something out of nothing was an overstatement, i meant to say "in comparison to these other backs"

I get it, he's got his fans. He's not a bad player. He's been hyped for years. I just think Helaire and Taylor will be better NFL backs.

I have Swift #1, but I could probably agree that CEH might even be a better fit in terms of what Veach/Reid typically look for.

Dante84 04-16-2020 05:57 PM

AJ Epenesa!!!

BigChiefFan 04-16-2020 06:01 PM

HB J.K. Dobbins
I just see him as an ideal fit for our offense. He’s a stout workhorse, who can take some pressure off of Mahomes and keep the chains moving. Our running game has struggled mightily and not only would he improve the run game, but he’s also good in the passing game. Another dynamic Weapon for this offense will have us running on all cylinders, which helps the defense, as well. This kid should be lights out for us and keep DC’s up at night. I think we have a legit shot to get him and I think a move like that puts us in the driver’s seat for the foreseeable future.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-16-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 14912480)
HB J.K. Dobbins
I just see him as an ideal fit for our offense. He’s a stout workhorse, who can take some pressure off of Mahomes and keep the chains moving. Our running game has struggled mightily and not only would he improve the run game, but he’s also good in the passing game. Another dynamic Weapon for this offense will have us running on all cylinders, which helps the defense, as well. This kid should be lights out for us and keep DC’s up at night. I think we have a legit shot to get him and I think a move like that puts us in the driver’s seat for the foreseeable future.

While I'd rather see if we could get him in the 2nd, that's why I like Dobbins and Taylor better than Swift, CEH, and Akers - though I like all 3 of those guys. But they're all 3 basically younger versions of Damien Williams, whereas Dobbins - like you said - and Taylor are more workhorse backs. Guys who can run out the clock when we have a lead in the 4th. And both Dobbins and Taylor are more than competent receivers from what I've seen. Lots of RB talent in this draft.

BigChiefFan 04-16-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 14912515)
While I'd rather see if we could get him in the 2nd, that's why I like Dobbins and Taylor better than Swift, CEH, and Akers - though I like all 3 of those guys. But they're all 3 basically younger versions of Damien Williams, whereas Dobbins - like you said - and Taylor are more workhorse backs. Guys who can run out the clock when we have a lead in the 4th. And both Dobbins and Taylor are more than competent receivers from what I've seen. Lots of RB talent in this draft.

Good post. I agree. I’d rather see us cement the running game and quit with RBBC approach.

staylor26 04-16-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14912454)
The Chiefs may indeed receive two comp picks next year but man, that's a risky move to make in the draft, especially knowing how the NFL has treated the Chiefs in prior years regarding Comp Picks.

I don't care what anyone says, a 6th rounder for the Super Bowl MVP is still the most absurd Comp Pick I've seen since the NFL began awarding them in 1994.

Fair enough. That was absolutely bullshit.

ForeverIowan 04-16-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14912177)
The odds of getting a WR outside of the top 10 that can start immediately in Reid's system are incredibly long.

A guy like Hardman wasn't going to be able to play the X here - he was a package/gadget player. If you're looking to replace Watkins with a similar style of player, you'd better take him this season and spend the year getting him up to speed. OR you hope that Hardman turns into a true X next year.

In either event, I don't think the idea that you draft 'for need' at WR in Kansas City the year you need said WR stands up. You'd better be drafting a year ahead of your need at the WR position here. Reid's system is just too damn complex.

(But Higgins still isn't that guy)

I'd disagree. Would be absolutely stunned if we go WR with our first or second rounder. We likely start the year Vegas odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl. I dont think you burn a first or second rounder with the future in mind when you already have the best receiving corps in the league. Now if you want to draft a developmental receiver late in the draft so be it. Plenty of draft picks out there that can impact this years roster as well as the future. There is a time and a place to draft and build for the distant in lieu of immediate future but this year isnt it. Draft for both.


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