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IowaHawkeyeChief 03-08-2024 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17433254)
I agree with a lot of this. We have had a lot of success with late-round CB draft picks. We have not been that lucky with early-round DL picks, Karlaftis is an exception.

except Jones has no trade value and we would be on the hook for $33 mil in cap this year.

Chief Roundup 03-08-2024 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17433246)
he was also near the top of the NFL in holding calls…

He was but we all know he was picked on by the refs all year. There are several of those holding calls that were BS. You know they are bad when commentators are saying that they were BS.

Chief Roundup 03-08-2024 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17433258)
except Jones has no trade value and we would be on the hook for $33 mil in cap this year.

His trade value is definitely lesser. I do have a question though.
What do you think the APY for the 2cd best DT in the league who is a 3-time SB winner that is a 5-time All-Pro and a 5-time Pro Bowl player should be?

Palangi 03-08-2024 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17433212)
What’s your pivot if Chris Jones leaves? I think I’d go after Danielle Hunter for a 3 year deal and also go after Sheldon Rankins for around $12-13 million while nagging a WR.

Sign Leki Fotu for $7 million a year and Kinlaw for $8 million a year

Both are just 25 still. They have great size and can push a pocket.

Then if we trade Sneed for a second round pick take Ruke Orahoroho

DT- Kinlaw, Ruke
NT- Fotu, Buggs, Farrell

Titty Meat 03-08-2024 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17433293)
Sign Leki Fotu for $7 million a year and Kinlaw for $8 million a year

Both are just 25 still. They have great size and can push a pocket.

Then if we trade Sneed for a second round pick take Ruke Orahoroho

DT- Kinlaw, Ruke
NT- Fotu, Buggs, Farrell

Stop with the bad takes

kccrow 03-08-2024 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17433293)
Sign Leki Fotu for $7 million a year and Kinlaw for $8 million a year

Both are just 25 still. They have great size and can push a pocket.

Then if we trade Sneed for a second round pick take Ruke Orahoroho

DT- Kinlaw, Ruke
NT- Fotu, Buggs, Farrell

Those 2 guys aren't worth half those figures.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-08-2024 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17433270)
His trade value is definitely lesser. I do have a question though.
What do you think the APY for the 2cd best DT in the league who is a 3-time SB winner that is a 5-time All-Pro and a 5-time Pro Bowl player should be?

I love Chris Jones, and hope the hell he realizes a legacy at one team has value long after you retire. That being said:

Some team with lots of cap space will pay $31-$33 per for 3/4. They just wouldn't give up a 1 or 2 to have that right, and anything worse is close to the comp offset possibility. That's why Sneed makes more sense in this stacked draft as we may get a 2 coupled with a 5/6. There's a 70% chance Jones plays injury free for the next 3/4 years and plays at a continued high level. It's the 30% that scares the hell out of smart teams, because that can wreck a team. See Von Miller. If Von stayed healthy, he was on fire that first year in Buffalo, they may win it. The Chiefs aren't going to make mistakes on 3rd contracts with older guys. Chris is the exception where they may pat $28/29, but they aren't paying $33.

Okchief80 03-08-2024 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17433007)
Remember though that this will be Jones’ final big contract. He also has three rings compared to one for Hill. Not sure Jones would feel the same buyers remorse that Hill is feeling.

He has made $94 million. He will probably get offered another $90 million guaranteed at least by the chiefs. How much would it be worth to not play for the chiefs? 10 million? This is exactly a hill situation. He will be in a worse situation for the money.

BossChief 03-09-2024 01:17 AM

Chris is going to get offered a little more to go elsewhere. He’s going to be back in KC once he doesn’t get what he thinks he will.

TwistedChief 03-09-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17433249)
you should put the shovel down. You would have rolled with 2 draft picks or paid a 29 Year old McGlinchey $87 mil over 5 years... And neither McGary or McGlinchey could play LT which is why Veach went with Taylor to have options. You also think that Taylor's contract has any bearing on whether we sign Chris Jones. You are football illiterate.

It’s not even rolling with two draft picks that’s the problem.

His entire plan was to go into a draft with the 32nd pick and no tackles, forcing the team to panic and choose a guy who might not be the best tackle fit.

The absolute worst thing you could do is go into the draft with such a huge glaring need. That’s what dumb teams do.

nychief 03-09-2024 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17433401)
It’s not even rolling with two draft picks that’s the problem.

His entire plan was to go into a draft with the 32nd pick and no tackles, forcing the team to panic and choose a guy who might not be the best tackle fit.

The absolute worst thing you could do is go into the draft with such a huge glaring need. That’s what dumb teams do.


I disagree with all the taylor hate, he was being made an example of early in the season, but outside of the penalties he was very good and was fantastic in the playoffs and super bowl.

Furthermore, Taylor's contract isn't keeping us from resigning Jones...this is magical thinking.

Balto 03-09-2024 08:29 AM

Jones might get $32+ annual average value offer in FA but I still think the guarantees will be like a normal contract and I think Veach could feel comfortable enough giving Jones that $26-$28M contract with higher guarantees to make it happen.

Palangi 03-09-2024 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17433299)
Stop with the bad takes

You going to be ok, bro?

kcbubb 03-09-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17433308)
I love Chris Jones, and hope the hell he realizes a legacy at one team has value long after you retire. That being said:

Some team with lots of cap space will pay $31-$33 per for 3/4. They just wouldn't give up a 1 or 2 to have that right, and anything worse is close to the comp offset possibility. That's why Sneed makes more sense in this stacked draft as we may get a 2 coupled with a 5/6. There's a 70% chance Jones plays injury free for the next 3/4 years and plays at a continued high level. It's the 30% that scares the hell out of smart teams, because that can wreck a team. See Von Miller. If Von stayed healthy, he was on fire that first year in Buffalo, they may win it. The Chiefs aren't going to make mistakes on 3rd contracts with older guys. Chris is the exception where they may pat $28/29, but they aren't paying $33.

Agreed. Especially after the ravens dt signed for less.

Dante84 03-09-2024 11:20 AM

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