That's because you're ****ing stupid and don't have any facts to back up your bullshit.

If there's someone that knows LESS about the NFL in forum, I'd be shocked, although you and Tattoo are neck in neck.

Here we go Geno! Here we go! Hoohoo!

Your percentages are way off.

Did you pull them out of your ass or SDH's?

Choke on a dick

It will be sad watching Geno fail, but he is not NFL ready and shouldn't start at this point even on a good team. Starting on a bad team will destroy what chance he has of becoming an NFL QB. Naming him starter at this point is a death sentence for his career.

Not that they have much choice when the only other option is buttfumble.

I am comparing Round 1 to round 2+. The argument here is first round or not, not first round or 2nd round.

Just guesstimating the current crop of 1st rounders in the NFL as good QB's and POTENTIAL super bowl winners, not just guys who have already won a bowl.

Here comes Dane-y singin' oldies-goldies; be-bop-a-lula baby what I say!

:shake::facepalm:

They're "Golden Oldies" for a reason, nimrod.

:facepalm:

And you're ****ing WRONG.

JFC, if you're going to use percentages, use the CORRECT percentages.

Either that or I'm going to force you to get a Chiefs tattoo on your chest.

Which is it?

Let's look at it like this. The numbers suggest you either get a guy in the first round, or you find a guy in the late rounds.

Let's just look at the 21st century.

The numbers suggest that either you get a guy in the first round, OR you get a guy in the late rounds that you feel good about.

Show your work.

You're dumb

Do you not understand that teams draft QBs in the first round to start for the team? Do you also not understand that in any given year only 3% of the starting QBs in the NFL will win the Super Bowl? The fact that almost 45% of the QBs that win the Super Bowl were not first round picks is what is astounding.

You seem to think that there is an even distribution of QBs selected throughout each round of the draft that are picked with the assumption that they will the the starter for the team. The fact that you don't understand what is so wrong with that assumption is your problem, not everyone else's.

Wouldn't smarter money be on the 55% who WERE 1st round picks if we're going to use that as a measure of smart ways to find Super Bowl QBs?

I mean, I'd rather it be about the PERCENTAGE of those QBs that do great things instead of just looking at the number of those type of players that won Super Bowls.

A shit ton of undrafted QBs won Super Bowls, you say? Interesting. How many of them are there in any given year compared to the number of QBs drafted in the first round?

And even if you want to say, "All that means is there's no one way to acquire a Super Bowl winning QB", why would you completely ignore the most successful classification of Super Bowl-winning QBs? To not go for ANYONE of that group in 30 years, that is.

Ok so from 2000 until now: Winners and losers. This isn't in any order because I've been drinking.

Kurt Warner: Undrafted
Steve McNair: 1st round
Kerry Collins: 1st round
Trent Dilfer: 1st round
Tom Brady: 6th Round
Peyton: 1st round
Eli: 1st round
Rodgers: 1st round
Big Ben: 1st round
Matt Hasselbeck: 6th round
Jake Delhomme: Undrafted
Brad Johnson: 9th round
Rich Gannon: 4th round
Sexy Rexy: 1st round
Drew Brees: 2nd round
Donovan McNabb: 1st round
Joe Flacco: 1st round
Kaep: 2nd round

You know that's bad for your liver, kidneys, brain and heart, right?

Isn't red wine good for your heart?

GENO SMITH IS THE STARTING QB FOR THE NEW YORK JETS

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...rter-1.6009602

17-35 220 yards 3 INT's a fumble and a TD.

Kristian Dyer (Jets beatwriter) just stated on NFLN that without question, the Jets had Sanchez locked into the starting job prior to the injury. That it was clear from inside that Geno was "gifted" the starting job because of Rex's poor decision to play Sanchez in that game where he was injured.

Either way, I won't judge Geno too harshly until he gives us reason to in games that count. If forced to bet money, I'd say he struggles mightily and falls apart emotionally soon after. But whatever... not even sure why KC or its fans should care at this point.

Wow, he beat out a failure with an injured shoulder and Brady Quinn. Impressive. :facepalm:

Butt fumble 2.0

Should be interesting

Let the butthurt flow...LMAO

Not hard when Mark is hurt and might go to IR.

If he turns that chicken shit offense into chicken salad he is a god.

that will insure the Jets the number one pick next year where they can draft a real QB.

I'm starting the Tampa Bay defense this week in FF. :D:D:D

Not GOING to happen.

Chiefs fans think they have seen the story with Alex Smith the retread before.

I have seen this story before too.

The franchise qb who isn't ready coming into a shit storm of an organization that is sinking.

Yeah......

Its not gonna end well.

I'll say this much.. if Geno struggles mightily, but eventually becomes a good quarterback down the road? I'll tip my hat to him, for sure.

New York City will chew him up and spit him out.

Rookie QB, bad team, murderous fanbase/press?

Oh yeah, he's ****ing doomed.

I was watching NFLN this morning, and they were talking about Geno NOT watching tape on Revis. I realize the dude is coming off an ACL injury, but come one. Revis found it interesting as well. maybe Geno doesnt plan on throwing it his way?

He certainly doesn't give off a vibe of a qb who gets it does he?

Even if this is just blowing smoke up the medias ass. Probably not a great idea to insult one of the best corners in football. A guy who already has a chip on his shoulder is already pissed at the team you play for and now you basically verbally bitch slapped him in the media.

Ive seen smarter strategies.

Killing with kindness perhaps?

Antagonizing a player that is far better than you are?

Not so much.

Yeah, it certainly seems like a bad idea no matter what his agenda is. He comes off as douchy for sure.

I had dinner last night with a founding family of the Jets.

A few drinks in, I asked "What's the Over/Under on Smith to Revis INT's in Week One?".

There was a silent pause, followed by insane laughter.

Three was the consensus.

If you're a Geno fluffer, him being thrown in to start right out of the gate (as the worst of three bad choices, only because another of them is injured) is about the last thing you wanted to happen.

Unless you're Claynus

:LOL: especially if he isn't watching tape...

He thinks this is good I'm sure, but Geno is going to get destroyed when the live fire starts this Sunday. He couldn't even avoid embarrassing himself against camp fodder in the preseason.

Remember that story about Jamarcus Russell, and how he didn't watch tape?

Yep. And what team is he on again??? Lmao

The cream always rises to the top.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/...801ec7d0_o.jpg

What does cream have to do with chocolate pie?

Geno needs 8 years, like awexis. Give it time

It's chocolate cream pie, and Geno will be fresh baking them every Sunday.

Cream is what Geno puts on Clayton's face every night.

My skin is so soft and smooth!

So, Splatbass is all worked up about Manning, and now worried senseless, so it's time to come bag on rookie Geno.

Got it.

Geno won't be a dumpster fire Sunday. He's too smart.

Also, the Jets aren't stupid. He isn't going to throw 30 passes in the first three quarters. He'll run a more conservative gameplan that takes the pressure off him.

I'm expecting something like 14 of 24 for 200 yards, maybe 1 TD and 1 pick.

The important thing is he continues to flash and make progress. He had some mistakes in his last game, but did some very positive things. Two TD drives, 4 or 5 very nice throws down the field....keep building, Geno. You are choco-fabulous!

WTF you talking about? Manning? What makes you think I'm worked up over Manning?

Lmao after he has 4 ints let's see you walk it back. Jet's aren't stupid bwahahahaha

Your QB envy is showing. I've pegged you like a pirate leg.

I'm happy with our QB, it is not me that has QB envy. You and your girlfriend Clay on the other hand....

At least Geno might be in NYC in February

You need therapy.

He's too smart????? Hahahahaha.....dude has admitted he isn't watching tape on Revis Island. And even if he is, but saying he isn't, he's insulting Revis and that's not smart either.

Besides, if he was smart, he would of aced all of his pre draft interviews and more than likely on another QB starved team, a team he might of had a chance to succeed on.

Dude is a dunce with a gun as an arm

He's attention whoring. Don't bother.

There is no cream?

That would be a very decent starting game.

Especially for a guy coming off what he is.

Easy to be happy when not a real snap has been played.

As to Revis; I didn't realize it was the year of our Lord 2009...

Ahhh Geno's shorts on Sunday. I'm guessing they be matching yours.

Of course, for the Chiefs, it might as well be 2009...

LMAO why does he need to watch tape when he has firsthand information from the team whom he played for for years with teammates he's played with for years? Holy mother yall are reaching for gat darn anything right now and look ridiculous for it.

its not really whether he did or didn't watch tape. Its his arrogant way of dismissing Revis.

The correct answer even if just a lie is, "oh absolutely, he is one of the best corners in the game, you have to give him that respect."

You never ever corner a badger. And if you do corner it, and its already pissed, I would advise NOT poking it with a stick.

You will understand come sunday.

He doesnt have to watch? Your right, unless he wants to cover all bases and do the best job possible with absolutely every piece of info available. I bet Manning watches tape of every single guy hes going to face. Same for Brady, Brees etc....
Im glad this dude isnt our QB.

But you're glad Mr. 1 TD per game is your QB?

More so than Ryan Leaf incarnate. Im super excited about the possibility of Bray a year or 2 down the line

I like Bray as much as the next guy but a UDFA? Come on Carlota. I know your bet was rendered useless last night but still.

He looks better than most of the QB class at this point...we'll see, but there some hope there.

Are you forgetting his first couple game where he had nothing but turnovers and sacks? Or are we solely going off of him beating on 3rd and 4th string Packer scrubs?

The Ryan Leaf comparison are hilarious.

Anti-Geno crowd is so desperate.

I predict an epic meltdown ala Ryan Leaf. Im not comparing talent, Im comparing mentality.

Yeah, I know.

It's completely ludicrous.

Geno was a model citizen at WVU and in HS. Leaf had known issues coming in, and it wasn't surprising when he melted down.

He sort of kicked ass in training camp to. He has flashed potential to be an top notch QB which is more than anyone KC has had in a long time. Nobody is crowning his ass yet.

Well see. You might be right, but I still on the lookout.

Exactly. Not expecting him to be the next Tom brady, but he has shown some flashes of very good possibility.