You give up Houston for Thomas, and you're un****ing one position at the expense of ****ing another.

**** that. Get rid of Berry instead.

He was talking about them taking pay cuts/restructures, not getting traded Thomas.
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Thomas wants Dallas and money. He doesn't want to play here and we can't pay him shit anyway. It's not happening and Fescoe has gone full stupid on this subject.
He said if Veach can't get Thomas then Clark should be forced to sell the team because he traded Peters. Fescoe is soooo damn stupid it's crazy he's on the radio. KC practically had no choice but to trade Peters. He wasn't going to stay and is a head case problem. He was in college and is now.

Yea cause you know they don't have 40 million of cap space next year....they also don't have the ability to rework some contracts to find money right now if need be.

Uh huh sure. If you are going to give me the money excuse you have no idea how this works. Also the idea that "he doesn't want to be here" is stupid. He wants to be compensated, maybe he'd like to play close to where he's from but I'm sure he'd be happy to get his money either way.

Also Peters hadn't made **** you money so the Chiefs could have controlled him till he was 30 if they really wanted to do that...some of these narratives about players wanting to stay or be here are completely overblown.

This is the rookie contract years of Mahomes. Anyone who thinks we dont have cap space now, are in for a shock in 3 years.

This is his payday. He has earned it. One hit, he's carted off the field Career over. He's not an over the hill player looking to get a fat contract and coast. He's in his prime. He has won a SB. Playing at the top of his game. We need his skills desperately.


We cant make the money work? GTFO


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His payday was his second contract.

"According to multiple reports, the Seattle Seahawks have come to terms on a long-term contract extension with safety Earl Thomas that will make Thomas the highest-paid player at his position. According to Pro Football Talk, the deal will add four years, $40 million and $27.725 million guaranteed to Thomas' Seahawks career. New Orleans safety Jairus Byrd received a six-year, $54 million deal in free agency, when the Saints plucked Byrd away from Buffalo in March. Byrd's contract has $26.3 million in guaranteed money."

And he actually took less than he could have gotten had he tested the market...

This is going to end like the Breeland deal did. I just hope we can pass 3000 posts before it does!



:popcorn:

We're going to need the Twitter Tards on full lookout today. Thank you.

SIGN EARL THOMPSON AND BRASHAUD BEELAND TODAY CARL!

The twitter tards are good for amusement though.

Let's see how practice goes for Seattle today.

Thomas will be out with a headache.

I dont know that we want to move on from Houston next season anyway, he was in beast mode Sunday. He may be back to vintage form.

Veach should offer what he got for Peters and see if Seatttle accepts it...:rolleyes:


I know - I know - kinda uncalled for, BUT I'M STILL PISSED at BOTH SIDES over THAT whole deal. :shake:

I don't even know if they can realistically walk away from Houston after this year.

Yep. And just regarding the pass rush, he Dee Ford were creating pressure for each other. It lead to some defensive stops, that allowed KC to get out to a BIG lead. It was how I could see this _efense work. It was a good sign. That is until Dee got hurt (again) :shake:

Just hope Berry comes back at all at this point, because this trade probably isn't happening.

So we're gonna move on from Houston after this year as well as D Ford?????

Right!

Breeland Speaks FTW!

Dude, you are one really negative person. LOL

Years of being a KC sports fan has beaten him down.

What leads you to believe otherwise? We don't want to pay either what the Seahawks want or what Earl Thomas wants.

DE to OLB project isn't doing well after 3 games. Bust. Let the poor bastard at least have a year before we shit all over him. Not his fault Veach expected him to play a position he's not used to yet.

I'd love for someone to go through all of the late 1st and 2nd round picks and tell me who you'd trade Earl Thomas for from that list..

It's going to be ****ing tiny, probably a handful of guys, which means you are praying to god that you get lucky and get that 1%.

It'd help if his body didn't look like he sits around downing cases of natty light.

Nothing leads me to believe otherwise. Until he signs a contract, I'm not going to believe he's staying OR going. I don't really have any idea what's going on behind the scenes (and neither do you).

Okay.

Then KPass FTW!

Or Dee Ford FTW!

I like how Speaks gets more playing time than Kpass makes a lot of sense.

he sure has been, which is weird - he's not normally.

If we were willing to pay what the Seahawks want it'd be done by now.

Of course. But let's not pretend we know the asking price or how far apart they are or anything like that.

All we know is that it isn't done.

This defense can be somewhat deflating. :D

Agreed. The Twitter Tards are the key to all this.

Thank you!

I don't really care about Earl Thomas one way or the other. I'd like to get him for the simple fact of it gets Mureay off the ****ing field and hopefully off the team.

You want negative?

Sutton would just use him wrong anyway.

:D

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ROFL

Rapsherted

Just give them the 1 Jesus, if you want someone you have 2 2's to trade with...

Ian Rapshert? LOL

I'm waiting to hear confirmation from Jay Brazier...

Nah.

So how many NFL front offices have you been involved with resume please? Yeah what I thought exactly zero. Holliday Inn right!

Rapeshit is a better troll name.

Nose Tackle...

Why?

:shake:

good response

Don't feel too bad, jimidollar. I fell for the Rapshert once as well.

Turn the servers off. Cancel the hosting service.

No need for CP, discussion not allowed.

Seriously I may do it later, someone go get the bottom 10 guys drafted in the last 6 drafts of the first round..you can even include the whole second round.

That will be over 250 players and I doubt you'll find more than 5 that you'd trade Earl Thomas for. So in that sense you are keeping that pick because you are banking that you can be the 1% instead of taking the proven guy...that's like thinking your franchise QB can be a 7th round pick.

I imagine all of us have fallen for something similar at one time or another. Internet hoaxes are fun...

Somebody already did you just missed it. Hang on.

Bump for Mecca.

I really like how this is turning more and more into the Bashaud Breeland thread by the day. We've had our real football talk, and now there's just a bit of doubt creeping in that this will get done.

By next week we'll be full-on post-spamming like this thread was designed to do!

Several of those guys aren't even on the teams that picked them...Breshad Perriman isn't even on a ****ing team!

I was actually getting excited about a late first round fatty, but Earl Thomas is a nice consolation prize!

And then Earl Thomas signs with the Packers...

In Veach I trust. GET 'ER DONE VEACH.

That list just pretty much shows you that having a late 1st round pick isn't all that valuable.

All your posts are absolutes as if you know and have inside info. You surely must be in some NFL teams front office because you just know.

One of 3 teams still without a loss. Already played 2 of the most explosive offenses. Berry will be back and healthy in their mind soon. If we were 1-2 then yeah, get him in here at all costs. We don't need him right now, so let the situation deteriorate in Seattle some more.

Salary stuff is pretty common knowledge seeing as we watch a ton of teams do it every year oh and you can find out the cap money because the information is readily available.

You know using the the ole brain and you can know these things too.

On a more serious note, the Seahawks do have a problem on their hands the more he festers and does this practice stunt with the team.

Unless they've decided to just tank the year, that is...

They aren't trading him inside the NFC, at least not to a perennial contender.

What team are you employed as their capologist?

Why does one need to be a capologist to know a team's general cap situation?
When I'm sick, I don't need to be a Dr. to know I'm sick. :shrug:
When I do my taxes, I don't need to be a CPA.
When etc...

Generalizations do apply. Present CAP amount and availability are recorded and many CAP strategies are common knowledge. This is what is being referenced. One does not need to be a capologist to have a conversation about it.

Okay, waiting them out is a different discussion. If you don't want to give them a 1 because you think they'll eventually take less, fine.

But what if we get to the trading deadline and it's still a 1, do you pass?

Because what you said in the first two sentences is exactly why we SHOULD do it.

A guy like Thomas keeps us rolling towards a championship, THIS YEAR.

:rolleyes:

They're not giving up a 1st, so it's pretty pointless to be debating a hypothetical situation that won't happen.

It's like the Interwebs and Google don't exist...

How do you know that?

Yeah, of course I'd take Earl over those guys. I'd take him over a lot of guys in the league right now, he's probably one of the best 10 guys in the league.

I get it. Its not as cut and dry though as that.

Theres a lot of factors. What you have to give up is just one. As we've seen in Seattle, when you go continually chasing and giving up picks, you can get wonky pretty quick. I also understand "no Sb in 50 years, who cares about the future" stuff as well so I won't get to wrapped up in that.

Then theres his age, his recent injury history and the new contract.

It's definitely a risk. Big reward if he's stays healthy and plays well but it's a risk.

Which is pretty short-sighted. We really need more Dee Ford's. Worth their weight in...oh, never mind...

I doubt they wanna go 2 straight years without a first round pick. That's a lot of potential cheap value and labor.

If we could draft a player where we are in the first this year that is a Dee Ford type player, yeah, i'd be pretty happy with that.

His issue is staying healthy.

I get crushing the Chiefs defensive drafts and such, they've not been very good.

But looking at the last couple first rounds, once you do get to the end of it, it gets pretty meh dicey.

I am not the one claiming to know what the Chiefs can or cant do. Mecca says that if the chiefs want to get this done no matter how the numbers are now and in the future they can do it. That just gives him more room to bitch and moan if it doesnt get done. When I see one of these big moves very seldom work out for the Chiefs I would be reluctant if I was the Chiefs too.